# Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2005, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792 "2005-09-21T22:47:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/1 "2005-09-21T22:47:26Z")

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From this [article](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050920/en_nm/music_rockhall_dc) there are several viable acts to be inducted. I think John Mellencamp deserves it, the Sex Pistols are a lock, and maybe Blondi and Skynerd.

While Miles Davis is a great talent, I don’t associate him with Rock, the others, meh.

Your thoughts?

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/2 "2005-09-21T23:10:18Z")

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Black Sabbath needs to be put in. In fact I am amazed that they have not already been inducted. They have influenced just about every metal band that has come out.

Slee

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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/3 "2005-09-21T23:14:43Z")

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> [@sleestak](#):
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> Black Sabbath needs to be put in. In fact I am amazed that they have not already been inducted. They have influenced just about every metal band that has come out.
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> Slee

They just becme eligible, 25 years after first release. And, yes, Black Sabbath should be inducted.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/4 "2005-09-22T00:28:09Z")

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No expert here, but wasn’t Sabbath’s first album released in 67? That’s longer than 25 years…

George

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/5 "2005-09-22T00:29:19Z")

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> No expert here, but wasn’t Sabbath’s first album released in 67? That’s longer than 25 years…
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> George

Sorry, make that 1970…

George

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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/6 "2005-09-22T00:34:26Z")

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> Sorry, make that 1970…
> 
> George

From the Yahoo article, I thougth this was their first year, but, yeah, let them in.

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/7 "2005-09-22T03:14:45Z")

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Chic and the Sir Douglas Quintet are contenders, but no consideration for Van Halen?

Nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/8 "2005-09-22T03:18:17Z")

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Stilll no **Warren Zevon**? What are they thinking?

Melllencamp deserves to be there, as does Skynyrd. But Joe Tex? He was nothing without the sex-o-lettes, man.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/9 "2005-09-22T03:34:19Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Stilll no **Warren Zevon**? What are they thinking?
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> Melllencamp deserves to be there, as does Skynyrd. But Joe Tex? He was nothing without the sex-o-lettes, man.

Maybe I’m being whooshed here… but Joe Tex was a soul star best known for songs like “I Gotcha” and “Ain’t Gonna Bump No More With No Big Fat Woman.” Disco Tex (and his Sex-o-lettes) was a character made up by flamboyant hairdresser Monte Rock III, who had just one hit: “Get Dancing.”

Neither is really worthy of the Hall of Fame. But then, Frankie Valli is in, so how big an honor could it be?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/10 "2005-09-22T03:36:02Z")

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Hey, that’s right. I did mix up Joe Tex and Disco Tex. All them Texes sound alike.

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**Author:** ![priapus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@priapus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/priapus)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/11 "2005-09-22T22:21:47Z")

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has ike Turner been recognized for his work?

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/12 "2005-09-22T22:32:15Z")

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> [@priapus](#):
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> has ike Turner been recognized for his work?

Not as an individual, but Ike and Tina Turner were inducted as a group. [Link at left under Inductees](http://www.rockhall.com/hof)

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/13 "2005-09-22T22:36:37Z")

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> [@kevja](#):
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> Chic and the Sir Douglas Quintet are contenders, but no consideration for Van Halen?

Not eligible yet. They won’t qualify until 25 years from the release of their first album.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/14 "2005-09-22T22:38:36Z")

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> [@brownie55](#):
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> They just becme eligible, 25 years after first release. And, yes, Black Sabbath should be inducted.

At least I’m not the only one who can’t count. :smack:

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/15 "2005-09-22T22:38:51Z")

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> [@sleestak](#):
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> Black Sabbath needs to be put in. In fact I am amazed that they have not already been inducted. They have influenced just about every metal band that has come out.
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> Slee

And metal has influenced a large part of mainstream rock. But I think Sabbath have asked that they not be considered for induction.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/16 "2005-09-22T22:42:21Z")

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XTC. [sigh] Their career sales figures are only so-so, but they’ve been one of the more influential and admired bands by other musicians. Sadly, this posting is becoming an annual rite of mine!

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/17 "2005-09-22T23:24:19Z")

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> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#):
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> Not eligible yet. They won’t qualify until 25 years from the release of their first album.

Their first album was released in 1978.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/18 "2005-09-23T00:39:28Z")

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Agreed on Mellencamp, Skynnard and especially Sabbath. Black Sabbath was _hugely_ influential on hard rock and Tony Iommi is an under-recognized guitarist. He basically created the vocabulary for heavy metal riffing.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/19 "2005-09-23T00:56:23Z")

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I’m still waiting for ABBA & the Electric Light Orchestra to get in.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/322792/20 "2005-09-23T02:08:13Z")

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> [@kevja](#):
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> Their first album was released in 1978.

Yeah, that’s why I said I couldn’t count. I was thinking 1970 was the cutoff year because of Sabbath getting nominated, then I saw the other nominees and went, “Hey, wait a minute…”

Shows how much attention I ever paid to the HoF.

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