# Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 18, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353 "2008-11-18T21:07:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/1 "2008-11-18T21:07:48Z")

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In the song, Rick Derringer sings “I hope y’all know what I’m talking about.”

Well, no. I’m afraid I don’t. Not at all.

Is a “hoochie-koo” a woman? A party? A concert venue? Looking at my questions, I guess I’m reasonably confident that it is a noun of some sort, but I guess I can’t be 100% certain. Is it perhaps an adjective (adverb?) modifying “rock and roll”?

😕

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/2 "2008-11-18T21:12:28Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> In the song, Rick Derringer sings “I hope y’all know what I’m talking about.”
> 
> Well, no. I’m afraid I don’t. Not at all.
> 
> Is a “hoochie-koo” a woman? A party? A concert venue? Looking at my questions, I guess I’m reasonably confident that it is a noun of some sort, but I guess I can’t be 100% certain. Is it perhaps an adjective (adverb?) modifying “rock and roll”?
> 
> 😕

I had to look up the lyrics to be sure, but my first thought was that he was talking about having sex with groupies.

I think you need the rest of the verse to understand what he is talking about.

I hope you all know what I’m talkin about  
the way they wiggle that thing really knocks me out  
gettin high all the time, hope you all are too  
come on little pussy gonna do it to you

The rest of the lyrics more or less support my theory I think. Though the groupie bit is debatable I suppose. He might just be talking about getting high and having sex to good ol’ rock and roll.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/3 "2008-11-18T21:20:55Z")

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I wish somebody’d tell me what that Diddy Wah Diddy means.

**Rock & roll hoochie koo / Lawdy mama, bite my shoes!**

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/4 "2008-11-18T21:41:47Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> I wish somebody’d tell me what that Diddy Wah Diddy means.
> 
> **Rock & roll hoochie koo / Lawdy mama, bite my shoes!**

[If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it!](http://www.artcomic.com/cat/underground/books/plymell.jpg) 😉

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**Author:** ![Kuboydal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecb155/32.png) [@Kuboydal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kuboydal)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/5 "2008-11-18T21:42:06Z")

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Everyone was always talking about who put the bomp, but I always wanted to know just what is was.

Rammalammadingdang

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/6 "2008-11-18T22:11:31Z")

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Me, I’m just playing with my ding-a-ling-a-ling.

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**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/7 "2008-11-18T22:29:53Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> I guess I’m reasonably confident that it is a noun of some sort, but I guess I can’t be 100% certain. Is it perhaps an adjective (adverb?) modifying “rock and roll”?
> 
> 😕

Son, you’re really thinking about this too hard. Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n Roll. That’s all it’s about. don’t sweat the details. Maybe it sounded better than “Scooby Do” or “Rooty Too” or something.

Alright, alright. I’ll give it a shot…

From Urban Dictionary we get:

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> hoochie: a female who appears to match a set of characteristics including: trashy, often inappropriately tight dress (with or without pudge overflowing waistband); eyebrows shaved and penciled back on in dramatic fashion; heavy, mostly monotonic makeup with dark lipstick; large, gaudy, costume-grade jewlery. Frequently accompanied by multiple children from different fathers (see baby-daddy).

That’s the polite version.

Keep in mind the UD definition is from 2004 and the Derringer tune is of the early '70s. However, I believe the essence (eew) of what constitutes a hoochie is roughly the same.

Now for the second part:

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> koo: The act of which the primary aim is to gain, regain or sustain social status, by partaking in an action that the individual perceives to be “cool”.

Or something. Hang on…

_puts on Frankenstein, takes big hit on doobie, holds it in, exhales_

aaah…what were we talking about?

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/8 "2008-11-19T16:15:37Z")

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Building on **mack’s** research, from “Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang”, we get:

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> hootchy-cootchy _n._ (_also_ hoochie-coochie) **1** [late 19C+] (_[orig.US](http://orig.US)_) a form of highly suggestive belly-dance, usually performed at carnivals. **2** [1980s+] (_US_) sexual activity [ety. unknown; perhaps no more than a showman’s idea of an ‘exotic’ or ‘Oriental’ name, the vowels of which suggest the sinuous gyrations of the dancer]

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**Author:** ![Influential\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Influential\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Influential_Panda)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/9 "2008-11-19T16:49:18Z")

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Everybody knows that the bird is the word

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**Author:** ![greatshakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@greatshakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greatshakes)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/10 "2008-11-19T16:51:48Z")

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IIRC, in the lyrics on his album, it was “Come on a little closer, gonna do it to you.”

I also think it’s more pronounced as same on J. Winter’s version, which had Derringer playing.

Been years, though, so I could be wrong.

greatshakes

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/11 "2008-11-19T16:59:20Z")

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He’s still kicking around, still playing that song about screwing groupies, inconsistent though it may be with his testimonial that  
“[the Lord allowed me to survive drugs, alcohol and sins of the flesh so that I can stand here today as an example](http://www.rickderringer.com/testimonial.html)”… an example of what, I’m not sure, but he’s also happy to tell you about his “vision”, which seems to be [some kind of home business scheme](http://rickderringer.buildlastingsuccess.com/).

😃

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**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/12 "2008-11-19T17:22:43Z")

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> [@greatshakes](#):
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> IIRC, in the lyrics on his album, it was “Come on a little closer, gonna do it to you.”
> 
> I also think it’s more pronounced as same on J. Winter’s version, which had Derringer playing.
> 
> Been years, though, so I could be wrong.
> 
> greatshakes

I’ve got it on my MP3 player. The first several times I listened, I thought he said “little pussy,” but the last time it came on, I was paying closer attention, and I agree that the lyric is indeed “a little closer.”

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/13 "2008-11-19T17:24:43Z")

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Yeah, the hoochie coochie was a sexually suggestive belly dance or striptease. As found in the earlier Coasters song [Little Egypt](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpI5mHBq9oU) (audio):

\*She let her hair down and  
she did the hoochie koochie real slow, wo wo,  
When she did her special number on a zebra skin,  
I thought she’d stop the show, wo wo, \*  
I’m sure “hoochie coo” as used in the song just means sex, or a dance leading up to it, or is a shout-out to the girls wiggling out in the audience.

(The Urban Dictionary usage of hoochie to describe a particular type of woman is more recent IME.)

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-and-roll-hoochie-koo/473353/14 "2008-11-19T17:39:44Z")

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> [@greatshakes](#):
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> IIRC, in the lyrics on his album, it was “Come on a little closer, gonna do it to you.”
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> greatshakes

Damn internet lyric sites! “Come on a little closer” is a whole lot less suggestive. Well, a little bit less suggestive a least.
