# Rock n' Roll HoF Inductees Announced \[updated title\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 9, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883 "2014-10-09T18:03:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/61 "2014-10-16T11:55:05Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I think Johnny Mathis might have literally sucked cock too, if that’s a disqualifier.

But he spent his career making records that helped us straight guys score! How many guys of my Dad’s generation lost their virginity in the back seat, while “Chances Are” played on the radio?

Regardless, Johnny never rocked, so he doesn’t go in the Hall of Fame. But like Perry Como, he had more hits after 1972 than Lou Reed did.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/62 "2014-10-16T13:29:27Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I think Johnny Mathis might have literally sucked cock too, if that’s a disqualifier.

Offensive, off-topic, and inappropriate. Also not funny, if that’s what you were going for.

No warning issued.

**twickster** , Cafe Society moderator

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/63 "2014-10-16T15:03:39Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Offensive, off-topic, and inappropriate. Also not funny, if that’s what you were going for.
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> No warning issued.
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> **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator

I believe he was sarcastically referring to a remark I made earlier- my own remark was also inappropriate, and I’ll take your warning to him as a warning to myself.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/64 "2014-10-16T15:48:40Z")

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Yeah, the tie-in was the claim that Lou Reed sucked cock.

Which I think was a reference to “Take a Walk on the Wild Side,” which is not about Lou himself, but Warhol’s transgender factory lizards.

Anyway, point is, not quite off-topic. And I, for one, welcome all cock suckers.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/65 "2014-10-16T17:20:27Z")

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Kraftwerk and Joan Jett should get in. There are other worthy nominees, but they deserve it most.

> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I happened to be at Kraftwerk’s first gig in the U.S., back in 1975, after _Autobahn_ made them FM-famous. They had the neon boxes with their glowing names placed by each synth. A couple of teens behind us started goofing on the funny names - Ralf, Florian. We gathered that they had no idea who Kraftwerk was: they just attended every concert.

OH MY GOD I AM SO JEALOUS!!!

I guess Karl would have seemed like a normal name to them, but they were probably laughing at Wolfgang too. I named my pet snail after Wolfgang.

> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#):
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> -Joan Jett…Making 2 maybe 3 songs tops that were good, should not get you in any Hall of Fame.

The fact that you only like a couple of her songs is irrelevant. You severely underestimate the importance and influence of Joan Jett, both for her work with the Runaways and her later success with the Blackhearts.

She was not only influential musically, but also personally. She’s a role model of confidence, chutzpah, and sheer badassery for many girls and women, including me. She made it okay for us to say “I don’t give a damn about my bad reputation.” My life changed the day I saw her on the I Love Rock’n’Roll album cover when I was 10 years old.

Oh, and by the way, since you think she’s undeserving, I might as well give you some more ammunition: She didn’t write most of her hit songs. She has credit as a co-writer on some of them, but the rest are mostly covers. But she’s the best damn cover artist out there.

> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#):
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> How Green Day can be in before Cheap Trick, when Green Day IS Cheap Trick, is freakin’ incomprehensible.

That made me laugh. I like Green Day well enough, but I consider them pop more than punk. Or punk-styled pop. Sort of like Poison was supposedly a metal band but was really metal-styled pop. (Once I realized that Poison was not a super-lame metal band, but a metal-styled pop band, I got to like them a lot better.) As far as the HoF nomination, Green Day is definitely somewhere in the bottom three of who should get in.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/66 "2014-12-16T12:58:46Z")

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From the NYTimes, bolding mine:

> [@](#):
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> **Lou Reed** , \*\*Green Day \*\*and the 1970s soul star \*\*Bill Withers \*\*are among the latest entrants to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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> They, along with the **Paul Butterfield Blues Band** , **Joan Jett and the Blackhearts** , and **Stevie Ray Vaughan and his group Double Trouble** , will be honored in Cleveland on April 18 at the hall’s 30th annual induction ceremony, the organization is to announce on Tuesday.
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> In addition, \*\*Ringo Starr \*\*will be given the award for musical excellence — formerly called the sideman award — and **the “5” Royales** , the rhythm-and-blues band known for playing the original versions of hits like “Dedicated to the One I Love” and “Think,” will be celebrated as an early influence.

Well, I am glad Bill Withers was recognized, and Joan Jett got in, and Ringo getting recognized for drumming is always a good thing ;). Nice to see Paul Butterfield, simply because guitarist Mike Bloomfield is underappreciated for his influence on blues guitar, his work with the PBB, Dylan, etc.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/67 "2014-12-16T13:22:32Z")

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Bill Withers is in, Deep Purple is not.

Nice.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/68 "2014-12-16T13:54:53Z")

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Updated the thread title from “Nominees” to “Inductees.”

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/69 "2014-12-16T13:57:44Z")

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Green Fucking Day.

That just says it all.

I mean, I can probably name 100 bands off the top of my head which were better than those bozos.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/70 "2014-12-16T16:28:04Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Green Fucking Day.
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> That just says it all.
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> I mean, I can probably name 100 bands off the top of my head which were better than those bozos.

Gotta defend Green Day.

Green Day’s American Idiot show was one of the best concerts I’ve ever seen.

FWIW, my concert going props include The Who, Zeppelin, numerous LA shows in the 80’s, and the Stones and Springsteen multiple times.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/71 "2014-12-16T16:49:38Z")

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As long as there’s no Dick Dale and no Link Wray in that building, it will be a strange place that I don’t understand.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/72 "2014-12-16T16:55:02Z")

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Yay for Stevie Ray!

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/73 "2014-12-16T17:41:14Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Green Fucking Day.
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> That just says it all.
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> I mean, I can probably name 100 bands off the top of my head which were better than those bozos.

You had to be there.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/74 "2014-12-16T18:25:18Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> As long as there’s no Dick Dale and no Link Wray in that building, it will be a strange place that I don’t understand.

At least they recognized The Staple Singers. What kind of farce would they be without The Staple Singers?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/75 "2014-12-16T19:21:59Z")

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Cat Stevens last year and now Bill Withers…

Who the heck is voting for these guys? I know they had their hits, I know they had their fans, but WHO gets excited enough about “Lean on Me” and “Morning Has Broken” to vote them into the Hall of Fame?

At this rate, I figure Dan Fogelberg will be in next year, and the Main Ingredient the year after that.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/76 "2014-12-16T23:38:54Z")

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Does Joan Jett have a boyfriend on the committee? She’s about the same as 200 other artists from the 80s.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/77 "2014-12-16T23:47:11Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Does Joan Jett have a boyfriend on the committee? She’s about the same as 200 other artists from the 80s.

How many of them were women? Of those, how many were _not_ influenced by Joan Jett (career dating to 1975)?

I’m not a fan, but I find this pick at least as justifiable as the Hall average.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/78 "2014-12-17T01:03:38Z")

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Looks like I continue my streak of whiffing about half my predictions.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> **Locks**  
> Lou Reed - Swept in on the “just-died” sympathy vote.  
> N.W.A - Only hip-hop act on the ballot, and the hall needs to fill their quota.

Got the obvious Lou Reed one. Completely missed on NWA. Maybe the hall’s NYC bias overcomes the need-a-token-hop-hop-act urge. Or maybe they figure they can stop with the hip-hop now that Grandmaster Flash, Run-DMC and Public Enemy are in, just like they stopped with prog after Genesis and Pink Floyd got in.

> [@](#):
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> **Highly likely**  
> Joan Jett and the Blackhearts  
> Chic  
> Green Day/Nine Inch Nails - I think only one will get in this year, more likely Green Day.

Two out of 3, not bad

> [@](#):
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> **Maybe**  
> Stevie Ray Vaughan - will probably get the fan vote this year.  
> Sting  
> Kraftwerk.

SRV did place #1 on the fan ballot, so I got that one.

> [@](#):
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> **Not this time**  
> The Smiths  
> The Spinners  
> The Marvelettes  
> Bill Withers  
> War  
> Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

Did not see Bill Withers or Paul Butterfield making the cut.

Joan Jett was my personal favorite of this year’s nominees, so I glad she got in. Happy for Green Day and Stevie Ray as well.

Now how about some Cheap Trick, dammit. They’ve never even been nominated.

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**Author:** ![Eddie\_F](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/22d042/32.png) [@Eddie\_F](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_F)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/79 "2014-12-17T02:52:42Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Bill Withers is in, Deep Purple is not.
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> Nice.

Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or serious, but I, for one, can totally live with this. And I say this as a person who lists Ritchie Blackmore as my absolute favorite RAWK guitarist of all time.

But you know, fuck the Hall for not inducting the Smiths the first time they were nominated. (Please, please, please, let me get what I want and get the Smiths INDUCTED next year.)

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**Author:** ![Eddie\_F](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/22d042/32.png) [@Eddie\_F](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_F)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/80 "2014-12-17T02:54:04Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Green Fucking Day.
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> That just says it all.
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> I mean, I can probably name 100 bands off the top of my head which were better than those bozos.

I can name _1000_. Seriously, fuck Green Day getting inducted before the Smiths, the Cure, and, well, DEEP PURPLE!

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