# Rock n' Roll HoF Inductees Announced \[updated title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883 "2014-10-09T18:03:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Eddie\_F](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/22d042/32.png) [@Eddie\_F](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_F)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/81 "2014-12-17T02:58:03Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > Or maybe they figure they can stop with the hip-hop now that Grandmaster Flash, Run-DMC and Public Enemy are in, just like they stopped with prog after Genesis and Pink Floyd got in. Well, they did let Rush in, too. > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > Now how about some Cheap Trick, dammit. They’ve never even been nominated. From your lips to the ears of the gods. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/82 "2014-12-17T03:03:19Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Does Joan Jett have a boyfriend on the committee? She’s about the same as 200 other artists from the 80s. Wow. That is just amazingly incorrect on a number of levels. Not just because she’s gay 😉 If you get a chance, do some homework on her - founding the Runaways, forming the Blackhearts and being a HUGE, HUGE influence as the Godmother of the Riot Grrrl bands that came after her. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/83 "2014-12-17T03:19:27Z")
I’m generally dodgy on the whole ‘but they were influential’ argument for the RnRHOF just as I am for the baseball HoF arguments of the ‘but he had the intangibles’ argument that puts a million Yankees in. It’s why I’m skeptical about a lot of critics darlings bands. But Joan Jett is a true pioneer. She took the game on in her own way and without her we wouldn’t have a whole slew of women in music who were able to do it how they wanted. And she was a hell of a lot more punk than Lou Reed could ever have wet dreams about being. [Joan’s short video for Bad Reputation.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeYn_W14zTU) I’m astonished that Bill Withers got in. Still not sure he should, but there’s hardly a better soul singer ever created. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/84 "2014-12-17T03:41:41Z")
Had to post this - JJ’s cover of The Sweet’s song A.C.D.C. off of their album Desolation Boulevard (god I love that album - Pat Benatar covered No You Don’t off of it, and it has Fox on the Run AND Ballroom Blitz on it!!! (well, the U.S. version does)) And the video features Carmen Electra - nice. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0LLRVC6rkP0/hqdefault.jpg "Joan Jett - A.C.D.C [HQ]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LLRVC6rkP0) Damn JJ is a badass. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/85 "2014-12-17T04:03:04Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Had to post this - JJ’s cover of The Sweet’s song A.C.D.C. off of their album Desolation Boulevard (god I love that album - Pat Benatar covered No You Don’t off of it, and it has Fox on the Run AND Ballroom Blitz on it!!! (well, the U.S. version does)) > > And the video features Carmen Electra - nice. > > [http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0LLRVC6rkP0](http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0LLRVC6rkP0) > > Damn JJ is a badass. Damn straight Desolation Blvd is one of the best albums of the 70s. It should’ve been mandatory if a band wanted to play on stage. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/86 "2014-12-17T05:36:58Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > At least they recognized The Staple Singers. What kind of farce would they be without The Staple Singers? I’m telling you, they do these things just to mess with me. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/87 "2014-12-17T08:42:16Z")
Joan Jett can’t sing and neither could Lou Reed. If Jett never got famous, all that pioneer cred could stay with Chrissie Hynde, where it belongs. Stevie Ray Vaughan had one song, it was a good song and it became every song he ever produced. Green Day…aw fuck it, it’s all just barrel scraping at this point. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/88 "2014-12-17T14:56:41Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > I will turn your face to alabaster, when you see the servant is your master! > > I have stood here before, out in the pouring rain, > I see the world turning circles, running round my brain, > I’m always hoping that I’ll end this reign > But it’s my destiny to be the King of Pain. > > * * * > > His lyrics suck? I don’t know what you mean. > > 😉😃 Exactly. Mephistophelese (sp) is not your name I know what you’re up to just the same. Obviously somebody is trying to poison his well. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/89 "2014-12-17T15:06:08Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > WHO gets excited enough about “Lean on Me” and “Morning Has Broken” to vote them into the Hall of Fame? Amazingly ironic: you left out the “Rock and Roll” from the Hall of Fame. Just like the Hall of Fame. The so-called RRHOF has been a joke from the start. I’m too lazy/disgusted with them to check, but, I’d be willing to be that there is more hip-hop/jazz/easy listening/soul/non-rock than there are rock and roll members. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/90 "2014-12-17T16:05:47Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Joan Jett can’t sing and neither could Lou Reed. snip I guess I don’t know what you mean by “sing”. ---
**Author:** ![Eddie\_F](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/22d042/32.png) [@Eddie\_F](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_F)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/91 "2014-12-17T17:06:13Z")
I’m just glad that the majority of the people posting to this thread have no power or influence over who gets nominated/inducted and who doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/92 "2014-12-17T17:09:20Z")
> [@Eddie\_F](#): > > I’m just glad that the majority of the people posting to this thread have no power or influence over who gets nominated/inducted and who doesn’t. Ehhh, our RRHOF would end up as just as big of a travesty to the ears of others, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/93 "2014-12-17T17:51:06Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Ehhh, our RRHOF would end up as just as big of a travesty to the ears of others, I’m sure. [Well, I’m trying](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=743751), but no apparent interest… ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/94 "2014-12-17T18:07:40Z")
Oh, I fully agree that nobody would want to visit a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where all of the inductees were favorites of mine! I love numerous artists whom I would never vote for. As I see it, a worthy inducteee should be either VERY popular or VERY influential, and should have a body of work that remains popular to this day. That means I’d HAVE to vote for numerous artists I don’t particularly like (Madonna, e.g.) and I’d have to shun many artists I love (Blue Oyster Cult). Among the artists I love who are NOT in the Hall of Fame but who strike me as slam dunks: Deep Purple The Moody Blues Yes But there are MANY acts I like who aren’t in the Hall of Fame and PROBABLY shouldn’t be. It ticks me off that Deep Purple isn’t in the Hall of Fame… but I can see why Boston isn’t. I love the Cars, and would like to see them in the Hall of Fame… but it doesn’t seem like a travesty to me that they aren’t. Not all of the acts I consider slam dunks are among my favorite bands. Worthy acts I don’t particularly like? **Chicago.** They were probably the most popular American band of the 70s. They still have numerous songs getting radio airplay. Why weren’t they inducted ages ago? Joan Jett is one of those borderline cases, to me. I don’t own any of her records, but she’s a decent pick. But if her name were Joe Jett, let’s be real: there is no way she’d have been elected. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/95 "2014-12-17T18:55:28Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > How can you hate Stevie Ray, **chicagowhitesox1173**? I can see not liking his music or whatever, but hate? for an amazing guitarist? Huh. True story: My uncle is a big jazzy prog fan, and went to see Jeff Beck open for SRV once. He said after the great show Beck put on, he couldn’t sit and listen to a bunch of cliched blues licks, and walked out. :smack: To this teenager who was really into Stevie Ray at the time, and to whom my uncle was a musical hero (he has close up pictures he personally took of the Beatles, Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, etc in their prime), I was crushed. “You WALKED OUT on Stevie Ray Vaughan???” I still shake my head thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/96 "2014-12-17T20:17:45Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > True story: My uncle is a big jazzy prog fan, and went to see Jeff Beck open for SRV once. He said after the great show Beck put on, he couldn’t sit and listen to a bunch of cliched blues licks, and walked out. :smack: > > To this teenager who was really into Stevie Ray at the time, and to whom my uncle was a musical hero (he has close up pictures he personally took of the Beatles, Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, etc in their prime), I was crushed. “You WALKED OUT on Stevie Ray Vaughan???” I still shake my head thinking about it. Even here in Austin, SRV wasn’t universally loved or admired. I myself was only a tepid fan. But I knew a lot of people who made fun of his “diddle diddle diddle wheeeeeee” guitar style. ---
**Author:** ![Enlightening\_Meditation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecc23a/32.png) [@Enlightening\_Meditation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enlightening_Meditation)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/97 "2014-12-17T20:33:04Z")
Once again, **Sonic Youth** doesn’t even get nominated. That’s a huge snub for the primary pioneers of noise rock. One of the key punk pioneers, the **Sex Pistols** , got inducted despite only one album. The continued snub of **The Flaming Lips** is also baffling. Has there been a more pioneering psychedelic band in the past 30 years? **Todd Rundgren** , **Deep Purple** , **Moody Blues** , **Yes** , **NIN** , **The Cure** , **The Smiths** , **Pixies** , **Phish** , **Primus** , and **Dinosaur Jr.** among others should also be in IMO. I remember being in shock during the late 90s and early 00s that **Black Sabbath** were not in the HoF, but the snub finally ended in 2006. They had been eligible since 1995. **The Ventures** were way overdue as well until their 2008 induction. FWIW, **Green Day** has sold over 75 million albums, which is a distinct achievement in any era of rock music but especially in the 1990-2014 time frame. Their punk opera _American Idiot_ is considered by many to be among the best albums of the 00s decade. Personally, I may prefer the sound of other punk rock and pop-punk bands, but I think Green Day is an easy choice for the HoF. Part of the case for **SRV** will likely be that he kept the blues relevant at a time (the 80s) when the genre was not otherwise popular. He was huge influence on guitarists even if he wasn’t much of a pioneer. It should take either success or influence or a combination of both to reach the HoF. The **Velvet Underground** had no commercial success during their existence but huge influence on musicians at that time and ever since…while **ABBA** and **Mellencamp** likely leaned more on commercial success than influence in order to be HoF worthy. I don’t like to listen to many of the HoF artists but feel that most should be there. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/98 "2014-12-17T21:30:22Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > True story: My uncle is a big jazzy prog fan, and went to see Jeff Beck open for SRV once. He said after the great show Beck put on, he couldn’t sit and listen to a bunch of cliched blues licks, and walked out. :smack: > > To this teenager who was really into Stevie Ray at the time, and to whom my uncle was a musical hero (he has close up pictures he personally took of the Beatles, Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, etc in their prime), I was crushed. “You WALKED OUT on Stevie Ray Vaughan???” I still shake my head thinking about it. I have a deep, abiding respect for SRV and listen to his stuff reasonably regularly. but your uncle is spot on about Jeff Beck vs. SRV - Beck is on a whole 'nother level. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/99 "2014-12-17T23:09:41Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Ehhh, our RRHOF would end up as just as big of a travesty to the ears of others… No, that’s not possible. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883/100 "2014-12-25T00:07:32Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > That means I’d HAVE to vote for numerous artists I don’t particularly like (Madonna, e.g.) . I don’t think that one can really call Madonna a rocker, can one? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-hof-inductees-announced-updated-title/700883.md?page=6)