# Rock n Roll theology

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [October 12, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759 "2020-10-12T03:32:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/22 "2020-10-12T13:46:46Z")

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“God in heaven, teach me how to die.” - Bloodrock

Great contribution, @mikecurtis!

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/23 "2020-10-12T13:51:28Z")

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“They say that heaven is 10 zillion light years away  
And just the pure at heart will walk her righteous streets someday  
They say that heaven is 10 zillion light years away  
But if there is a God, we need Him now  
“Where is your God?”  
That’s what my friends ask me  
And I say it’s taken Him so long  
'Cause we’ve got so far to come”

-Stevie Wonder, “Heaven Is Ten Zillion Light Years Away”

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/24 "2020-10-12T14:11:11Z")

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You are not serving me, you’re serving something else  
Cause I don’t need to be pleased, just get over yourself  
You can’t suck up, up to me, I know you all too well  
But I don’t dwell upon you, so get over yourself  
Cause you’re not praying to me, you’re praying to yourself  
And you’re not worshiping me, you’re worshiping yourself  
And you will kill in my name and heaven knows what else  
When you can’t prove I exist, so get over yourself

_God Said_ by Todd Rundrgen

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/25 "2020-10-12T14:17:57Z")

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> We’ll know for the first time,  
> If we’re evil or divine,  
> We’re the last in line.

Ronnie James Dio

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/26 "2020-10-12T14:25:27Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> I take it anything from Dylan’s “born again phase” would be off-limits?

There’s always his not born-again phases…

_Oh, God said to Abraham, “Kill me a son”_  
_Abe said, “Man, you must be puttin’ me on”_  
_God said, “No” Abe say, “What?”_  
_God say, "You can do what you want, Abe, but_  
_The next time you see me comin’, you better run"_  
_Well, Abe said, “Where d’you want this killin’ done?”_  
_God said, “Out on Highway 61”_

– Highway 61 Revisited

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/27 "2020-10-12T14:28:59Z")

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I couldn’t take it any longer Lord I was crazed  
And when the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave  
I started swearing to my god and on my mother’s grave  
That I would love you to the end of time  
I swore, that I would love you to the end of time  
So now I’m praying for the end of time  
To hurry up and arrive  
'Cause if I gotta spend another minute with you  
I don’t think that I can really survive  
I’ll never break my promise or forget my vow  
But god only knows I could do it right now  
I’m praying for the end of time  
It’s all that I can do  
Praying for the end of time, so I can end my life with you

-Meatloaf, Paradise by the Dashboard Light

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/28 "2020-10-12T15:00:16Z")

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“The human race has walked the earth for 2.7 million  
And we estimate the universe at 13-14 billion  
When all these numbers tumble into your imagination  
Consider that the Lord was there before creation  
God is old  
We’re not old”

-Paul Simon: “Old”

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/29 "2020-10-12T15:12:24Z")

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I’d play “Sally Gooden” all day if I could  
But the Lord and my wife wouldn’t take it very good  
So I fiddle when I can, work when I should  
Thank God I’m a country boy.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/30 "2020-10-12T15:26:55Z")

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Lyle Lovett, “God Will”  
And who keeps on loving you  
When you’ve been lying  
Saying things ain’t what they seem  
God does  
But I don’t  
God will  
But I won’t  
And that’s the difference  
Between God and me

“Zero” by Smashing Pumpkins  
Emptiness is loneliness  
And loneliness is cleanliness  
And cleanliness is godliness  
[And God is empty just like me]

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/31 "2020-10-12T15:32:59Z")

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_Dear God don’t know if you noticed but_  
_Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book_  
_And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look_  
_And all the people that you made in your image_  
_Still believing that junk is true_  
_Well I know it ain’t, and so do you_  
_Dear God_

– Dear God, by XTC

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/32 "2020-10-12T16:27:07Z")

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An obscure little piece: [The Book, by Magazine](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV5xoO1PnHQ). A parable concerning Hell. Kinda.

> [@](#):
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> This man is at the door of Hell…
> 
> The kindly old man who is the doorman…is sat reading a book…  
> But he gets up smartly and without time for either of them to feel that they’re standing on ceremony says, “Hold my book for a minute, would you, while I get the door open”
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> …Next thing he knows, they have exchanged opinions on the book and he has handed it back to the old man and is being shown into Hell

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/33 "2020-10-12T17:18:17Z")

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[Everybody’s got a room in God’s Hotel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZAarUlIhn0)  
You’ll never see a sign hanging on the door  
Sayin’, ‘There ain’t no rooms available here anymore’  
Everybody’s got a room in God’s Hotel

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/34 "2020-10-12T17:58:42Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> There’s always his not born-again phases…
> 
> _Oh, God said to Abraham, “Kill me a son”_  
> _Abe said, “Man, you must be puttin’ me on”_  
> _God said, “No” Abe say, “What?”_  
> _God say, "You can do what you want, Abe, but_  
> _The next time you see me comin’, you better run"_  
> _Well, Abe said, “Where d’you want this killin’ done?”_  
> _God said, “Out on Highway 61”_
> 
> – Highway 61 Revisited

Two more examples from his even earlier folkie, “protest” days:

“With God On Our Side”

_Through many a dark hour_  
_I’ve been thinkin’ about this_  
_That Jesus Christ was_  
_Betrayed by a kiss_  
_But I can’t think for you_  
_You’ll have to decide_  
_Whether Judas Iscariot_  
_Had God on his side._

_So now as I’m leavin’_  
_I’m weary as Hell_  
_The confusion I’m feelin’_  
_Ain’t no tongue can tell_  
_The words fill my head_  
_And fall to the floor_  
_That if God’s on our side_  
_He’ll stop the next war_

“Masters Of War”

_How much do I know_  
_To talk out of turn_  
_You might say that I’m young_  
_You might say I’m unlearned_  
_But there’s one thing I know_  
_Though I’m younger than you_  
_Even Jesus would never_  
_Forgive what you do_

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/35 "2020-10-12T17:58:50Z")

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You’ll never get to heaven if you break my heart.  
Dionne Warwick - and also The Spinners.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/36 "2020-10-12T18:02:23Z")

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“If you want to get to heaven, you got to raise a little hell” - Ozark Mountain Daredevils

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/37 "2020-10-12T18:06:35Z")

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And of course these two whole songs (the Gospel according to Randy Newman):

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/C0TvfqmWf4M/maxresdefault.jpg "Randy Newman - God's Song (That's Why I Love Mankind)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0TvfqmWf4M)

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6VrJsFpmG2w/hqdefault.jpg "Randy Newman - He Gives Us All His Love") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VrJsFpmG2w)

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/38 "2020-10-12T18:07:36Z")

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" Two men say they’re Jesus - one of them must be wrong"  
Dire Straits, Industrial Disease

“Flying back from Lubbuck, I saw Jesus on a plane. Or maybe it was Elvis - you know they kinda look the same.”  
Don Henley, If Dirt Were Dollars

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/39 "2020-10-12T18:22:26Z")

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“This is a place where eternally  
Fire is applied to the body  
Teeth are extruded and bones are ground  
Then baked into cakes which are passed around.” -Squirrel Nut Zippers, “Hell”

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/40 "2020-10-12T18:33:25Z")

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“Down There by the Train” by Tom Waits is sort of a Universalist hymn.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-theology/922759/41 "2020-10-12T19:57:40Z")

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God will remind us what we already know  
That the human race is about to reap what it’s sown-- The The “Armageddon Days Are Here Again”

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