# Rock n Roll Urban Legends

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 25, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769 "2005-10-25T03:41:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/41 "2005-10-25T19:16:34Z")

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> [@Waterman](#):
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> in the summer of 1969

Were you hungry, just barely alive?

Oh, wait, that’s the summer of '65. Never mind. 😉

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/42 "2005-10-25T19:19:55Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> Were you hungry, just barely alive?
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> Oh, wait, that’s the summer of '65. Never mind. 😉

I think that was the winter, and it’s also a different century. 😉

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/43 "2005-10-25T19:34:14Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> Were you hungry, just barely alive?  
> –Cliffy

Did woman survive?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/44 "2005-10-25T19:36:18Z")

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> [@Jman](#):
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> I’ve always wondered about the semen ULs. I mean, how do these make it around…don’t these people realize just how much a gallon of semen is? I mean, a full milk jug…we’re talking approximately 950 cumshots. Umm…yeah. (and yes, I converted the average volume of ejaculate to gallons)

I’m aware of how much fluid a gallon is. I’m also aware that we are talking about nearly 1000 cumshots. It’s just that I don’t think Axel Rose is incapable of sucking that many dicks. Especially with the other members of **Guns n’ Roses** acting as fluffers.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/45 "2005-10-25T20:04:08Z")

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Not a very earth-shattering UL, but I kept hearing the Dennis DeYoung of Styx discovered Tommy Shaw when he heard gutiar playing coming from a nearby building while stopped at a red light (or something). In fact, Shaw was discovered thru normal channels, but DeYoung founded the band as a teenager after hearing guitar and drums coming from the house of the Panozzo twins who lived up the block.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/46 "2005-10-25T20:21:01Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> Didn’t “The Beav” grow up to become Alice Cooper?

No, _Eddie Haskell_ grew up to become Alice Cooper.

And after The Beatles broke up, they played some sessions just for fun, that were later released as Badfinger.  
Re the rumor that Aerosmith warmed up for a gig by playing at an out of the way club, how many other bands supposedly would show up at some dive without notice and play a set or two?

1. Rolling Stones

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/47 "2005-10-25T20:28:49Z")

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Ozzy Osbourne never threw any live puppies or kittens into the crowd and demanded that they be torn apart before he would perform. He also never chainsawed any live animals onstage.

Marilyn Manson has never been a minister of the Church of Satan.

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**Author:** ![Euthanasiast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Euthanasiast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euthanasiast)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/48 "2005-10-25T20:31:10Z")

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> [@Sublight](#):
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> Van Halen did in fact include a clause in their concert contracts that a bowl of M&Ms be provided backstage with all the brown ones taken out. It was actually a very clever move on their part.
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> [http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/vanhalen.htm](http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/vanhalen.htm)

Britney Spears Employed the same tactic with Lucky Charms and having all of the non marshmallow bits removed.

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**Author:** ![Meaty\_Beaty\_Big\_and\_Bouncy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Meaty\_Beaty\_Big\_and\_Bouncy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meaty_Beaty_Big_and_Bouncy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/49 "2005-10-25T20:39:20Z")

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> [@Veuve\_ClicquotNJ](#):
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> I don’t know if this falls under the heading of “urban legend”, but I was recently surprised to read that legendary songwriter Doc (“Hushabye” amongst others) Pomus is the brother of legendary divorce attorney Raul Lionel Felder.
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> VCNJ~

Along that same line, Doug Feiger, lead guitarist for\* The Knack, \*is the brother of defense attorney & talking head Ron Feiger, whose major claim to fame was defending Dr. Kevorkian.

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**Author:** ![UntouchedTakeaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d78d45/32.png) [@UntouchedTakeaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UntouchedTakeaway)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/50 "2005-10-25T20:52:08Z")

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> [@Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy](#):
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> Along that same line, Doug Feiger, lead guitarist for\* The Knack, \*is the brother of defense attorney & talking head Ron Feiger, whose major claim to fame was defending Dr. Kevorkian.

Yes!

And I also recall hearing that the brother of the Cheap Trick drummer Bun E. Carlos was one of the 1970s Iranian embassy hostages.

VCNJ~

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**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/51 "2005-10-25T20:52:12Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Re the rumor that Aerosmith warmed up for a gig by playing at an out of the way club, how many other bands supposedly would show up at some dive without notice and play a set or two?
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> 1. Rolling Stones

1. Iron Maiden

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**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/52 "2005-10-25T21:09:34Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Ozzy Osbourne never threw any live puppies or kittens into the crowd and demanded that they be torn apart before he would perform. He also never chainsawed any live animals onstage.
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> Marilyn Manson has never been a minister of the Church of Satan.

I heard both those about Alice Cooper back in 1978.

I also heard about Rod stewart & a quart of semen…

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/53 "2005-10-25T21:13:56Z")

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1. R.E.M. used to do gigs at the Antenna Club in Memphis well after they were big. They would play a big show and then show up unannounced afterwards to play with a local band. One of the names they used for these shows was Hornets Attack Victor Mature. They also used to do this at W. C. Dawn’s in Jackson, Mississippi and at various venues in Athens, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they did this elsewhere in the country as well.

RE: onstage cropophilia  
I have video evidence of G. G. Allin eating his own shit on stage at the Antenna moments before he ended the show by chasing everyone out of the club and being arrested naked on Madison avenue. Quite the character, that G. G.

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**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/54 "2005-10-25T21:15:39Z")

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> [@fishbicycle](#):
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> Frank Zappa did not take a dump onstage. Or eat it. He is also not the son of the man who played Mr. Green Jeans on Captain Kangaroo.

I heard that it was Ted Nugent who was the son of Mr. Green Jeans.

Aerosmith was supposed to be on the plane that crashed carrying the band Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1977. Actually, I think that may have some truth to it. I have a book on Aerosmith at home and I will check later.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/55 "2005-10-25T21:17:34Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> And after The Beatles broke up, they played some sessions just for fun, that were later released as Badfinger.

A possible explanation for this might be that Paul McCartney got into the studio early one day and decided to record a song to be used by another Apple artist - The Iveys. The song was “Come and Get It”. Paul played all the instruments himself and mixed and mastered the track.

He presented it to the The Iveys (later Badfinger) and told them to play it the same way he did and they would have a big hit.

They did and they did. It hit #4 in the UK and #11 in the US.

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**Author:** ![libwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/76d3ee/32.png) [@libwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/libwen)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/56 "2005-10-25T21:36:17Z")

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> [@Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy](#):
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> Along that same line, Doug Feiger, lead guitarist for\* The Knack, \*is the brother of defense attorney & talking head Ron Feiger, whose major claim to fame was defending Dr. Kevorkian.

Actually, that defense lawyer’s name is Geoffrey Fieger. Seeing as he never lets us Michigan residents forget who he is . . .

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/57 "2005-10-25T22:20:42Z")

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> [@vibrotronica](#):
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> 1. 
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> RE: onstage cropophilia  
> I have video evidence of G. G. Allin eating his own shit on stage at the Antenna moments before he ended the show by chasing everyone out of the club and being arrested naked on Madison avenue. Quite the character, that G. G.

I mentioned that on page 1. Thats not art, thats mental illness.

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**Author:** ![KRC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/45deac/32.png) [@KRC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KRC)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/58 "2005-10-25T22:48:55Z")

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Back in '82 there was a rumor that Joan Jett was really a guy and her name was John Jett. I guess she just didn’t appear feminine enough for some people.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/59 "2005-10-25T23:02:48Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Well, back in in 1983, Page and Clapton DID share the stage–along with Jeff Beck. They were part of the group that toured to support Ronnie Lane’s MS Charity, A.R.M.S.
> 
> On the night I saw the concert, Jimmy was the 3rd-best guitarist on stage.

I agree. The night I saw that group, he was definately the least talented of the three.

1. Neil Young used to do stuff like that in Northern California back in the 70s. I saw him do a set at a little dive outside Fortuna.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-roll-urban-legends/327769/60 "2005-10-26T02:34:57Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> Rod Stewart being hospitalized after ODing on groupie jizz.

I’m not a huge Rod Stewart fan, but I give him a lot of credit for his response to this rumor.

When Rolling Stone asked him to comment on this legend, he laughed back, “Yeah, I hear that story all the time. What am I supposed to have done, sucked off a whole football team?”

It can’t be fun to be the subject of sick rumors, but better to laugh at such stories, like Rod, than to take out full-page magazine ads to refute them (like Richard Gere).

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