# Rock n rollers who never screwed groupies?!

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**Created:** [February 18, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675 "2007-02-18T04:01:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
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Q1: I heard that there was a member of the Rolling Stones who was loyal to his wife and never screwed groupies. Who was that?

Q2: And were there/are there any other rock stars who simply never indulged?

Q3: And I read a Morissey interview in which he said that just because you’re famous that doesn’t mean that anyone wants to sleep with you. Is it a myth that you can always screw something if you’re a rock star?!

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/2 "2007-02-18T04:55:57Z")

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Q1. [Charlie Watts](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Watts)

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> Ever faithful to his wife Shirley, Watts consistently refused sexual favors from groupies on the road and discussed his regular bouts of insomnia incurred from not sharing his bed with his wife in Robert Greenfield’s STP: A Journey Through America With The Rolling Stones, a document of their 1972 American Tour. When the group held court at the Playboy Mansion during that tour, Watts famously took advantage of Hugh Hefner’s renowned game room rather than frolic with the women. It was not until he finally sought treatment for alcoholism and drug addictions in the late 1980s, which included several years of heroin and amphetamine use, that his wife and daughter Seraphina began regularly joining him on Rolling Stones tours.

Bill Wyman also confirms this in his book, Stone Alone.

Q2. Sure. Some people are faithful to their wives, rock stars or no.

Q3. I don’t believe it for a minute. Unless you’re a drummer or bassist. 🙂

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/3 "2007-02-18T05:05:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Aeschines]  
Q1: I heard that there was a member of the Rolling Stones who was loyal to his wife and never screwed groupies. Who was that?

Q2: And were there/are there any other rock stars who simply never indulged?

Q3: And I read a Morissey interview in which he said that just because you’re famous that doesn’t mean that anyone wants to sleep with you. Is it a myth that you can always screw something if you’re a rock star?!  
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I haven’t read Bill Wyman’s book in years, but I recall that he actually kept a running count of how many women each of the Stones had slept with. He claimed that Brian Jones had scored with more women than anyone else, with Wyman a close second, and Jagger and Richards coming up the rear. But Wyman had a zero by Watts’ name, because Charlie didn’t cheat on his wife.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/4 "2007-02-18T05:23:16Z")

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[QUOTE=astorian]  
I haven’t read Bill Wyman’s book in years, but I recall that he actually kept a running count of how many women each of the Stones had slept with. He claimed that Brian Jones had scored with more women than anyone else, with Wyman a close second, and Jagger and Richards coming up the rear. But Wyman had a zero by Watts’ name, because Charlie didn’t cheat on his wife.  
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So, were those big numbers–hundreds? thousands?

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**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/5 "2007-02-18T13:10:00Z")

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Q3: And I read a Morissey interview in which he said that just because you’re famous that doesn’t mean that anyone wants to sleep with you. Is it a myth that you can always screw something if you’re a rock star?!  
[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase]  
Q3. I don’t believe it for a minute. Unless you’re a drummer or bassist. 🙂  
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Drummers always get the best lookin’ chicks (no offense intended to those who date other musicians). It’s the bass players who suffer.

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**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/6 "2007-02-18T13:11:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Aeschines]  
Is it a myth that you can always screw something if you’re a rock star?!  
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Calling MythBusters!

(So which cast member gets put into a band to test this myth? The nerdiest? The ugliest? Hmm…)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/7 "2007-02-18T13:34:12Z")

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Could be Kari, except that wouldn’t prove the point. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/8 "2007-02-18T13:53:29Z")

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[QUOTE=NoCoolUserName]  
It’s the bass players who suffer.  
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Not Paul McCartney, I’ll bet.

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/9 "2007-02-18T16:29:18Z")

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I don’t have a cite, but I’d bet a dollar that Dee Snyder would fit on this list. In his testimony before the Senate, he revealed that he didn’t smoke nor drink and in interviews, he’s mentioned his long marriage to the same woman. He seems like a pretty clean-cut guy.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/10 "2007-02-18T16:57:45Z")

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Alice Cooper, the most suburban rocker of all time.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/11 "2007-02-18T17:05:42Z")

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[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]  
Could be Kari, except that wouldn’t prove the point. 🙂  
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I for one support this idea. 😃

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/12 "2007-02-18T18:06:42Z")

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I’ve heard that Queensryche, at least by about 10 years into their career as a major metal band, were considered really boring by bands they toured with, because they didn’t try to party after shows. Of course, that may have come with a little age.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/13 "2007-02-18T18:26:52Z")

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I don’t think U2 is known for sexual escapades with groupies.

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**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/14 "2007-02-18T20:50:58Z")

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No good cite, but I saw an interview once where someone said that Bachman Turner Overdrive was one of the most boring bands offstage. The interviewee said that they didn’t drink or smoke and that all of them were married and didn’t cheat, so all that they did after shows was go out and eat.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/15 "2007-02-18T21:46:25Z")

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[QUOTE=tanstaafl]  
No good cite, but I saw an interview once where someone said that Bachman Turner Overdrive was one of the most boring bands offstage.  
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That may have been their former bandmate from the Guess Who, Burton Cummings. Apparently the Bachman brothers are Mormons.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/16 "2007-02-19T04:36:53Z")

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I’m gonna hazard a guess that the guys in Rush haven’t spent time with groupies. Alex Lifeson has been with the same woman since he was 15 years old; Geddy Lee has been married to the same woman since the early ‘70s; Neil Peart doesn’t seem like the cheatin’ kind.

And Geddy (I think) once mentioned that starting out their career by traveling with Aerosmith and KISS taught them how _not_ to behave on the road 😃

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/17 "2007-02-19T04:52:15Z")

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[Brian May](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May) of Queen was apparently not a partier. According to that page, he avoided drugs or alcohol, was a nonsmoker, and was not sexually promiscuous.

Do the Barenaked Ladies and They Might Be Giants have groupies?

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
Do the Barenaked Ladies and They Might Be Giants have groupies?  
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I’ve heard that the BeeGees still do. Six groupies, IIRC, that they meet up with after concerts for drinks.

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/19 "2007-02-19T05:33:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
Do the Barenaked Ladies and They Might Be Giants have groupies?  
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I worked security at a TMBG concert, & they didn’t even sign autographs. It’s like they get all of their extroversive tendencies out on stage, then turn back into introverts immediately.

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-n-rollers-who-never-screwed-groupies/392675/20 "2007-02-19T13:08:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]

Do the Barenaked Ladies and They Might Be Giants have groupies?  
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I hung out with BNL backstage at a show - mostly before the show. Ed Robertson was a very nice guy - easy to talk with; we spent about an hour together just hanging out. I got NO sense whatsoever that they partied or did the groupie thing - at all.

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