# Rock "samples" in rock songs

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 17, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560 "2015-09-17T14:32:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/61 "2015-09-25T21:33:27Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Questions was a whole Springfield song. He used the verses of it in Carry On. How is that not a quote?

I didn’t know that! My mistake. I only know “Questions” from the BF box set, where it’s sequenced among unreleased out-takes from just before they split up.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/62 "2015-09-25T22:35:38Z")

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I mean BS (Buffalo Springfield), not BF. Blame it on the Missing Proofreader. 😉

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/63 "2015-09-25T23:12:00Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I mean BS (Buffalo Springfield), not BF. Blame it on the Missing Proofreader. 😉

I was gonna do that same thing, BF, then realized it would be BS, didn’t want to blaspheme, and then went whole hog for “Springfield”

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**Author:** ![Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/les_espaces_du_sommeil/32/308_2.png) [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Les_Espaces_Du_Sommeil)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/64 "2015-09-26T19:30:37Z")

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In **Anthrax** ’s 1986ish rap-metal _I’m the Man_, you can a snippet from **Metallica** ’s _Master of Puppets_. Given the general tone of the song, I think it’s both an homage and a joke.

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**Author:** ![Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harvey_The_Heavy)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/65 "2015-09-28T10:22:40Z")

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KISS’ _Destroyer_ album has a few actual samples: The introduction to Detroit Rock City starts with a news report of a teenager being killed in a car crash, then switches to the sounds of the teen getting into the car and driving away, then the radio comes on and it’s playing Rock And Roll All Nite from the _Alive!_ album.

The album ends with an untitled sound montage containing samples of Great Expectations, the last song on side 1, and snippets of Paul Stanley’s stage banter from _Alive_.

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/66 "2015-09-28T11:14:15Z")

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Just to be clear; a **sample** is when you record part of a song and play it back as part of your song, looped or otherwise.

If you play a few notes or sing a line from another song in your song, that’s a **quote**. Not a sample.

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**Author:** ![Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/les_espaces_du_sommeil/32/308_2.png) [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Les_Espaces_Du_Sommeil)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/67 "2015-09-28T13:16:19Z")

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My example was indeed a sample. It is **Hetfield** ’s voice that you hear shouting _“Master!”_ with the accompanying riff, all lifted from **Metallica** ’s song.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/68 "2015-09-28T16:22:49Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Eddie Money’s “Take Me Home Tonight” samples The Ronnettes “Be My Baby.”

Money’s drummer on the _Can’t Hold Back_ album, Mike Baird, plays two measures of Led Zeppelin’s “When the Levee Breaks” during the bridge of “Take Me Home Tonight”. Might not count as a sample since Baird actually played the drum beats in the studio, though.

EDIT: reading upthread, I guess Baird is \*quoting \*LZ, then 😃

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/69 "2015-09-28T16:50:17Z")

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Monster Magnet’s Dave Wyndorf is a big fan of 1970s hard rock and psychedelia:  
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[li]“Dopes to Infinity” borrows the main guitar riff from “Woman Tamer” by Sir Lord Baltimore, and the chant “What can I say?” from Hawkwind’s “Lord of Light”.[/li][li]“Twin Earth” is a pretty close reworking of Captain Beyond’s “Mesmerization Eclipse”.[/li][li]“Evil (Is Going On)” is a note-for-note cover of Cactus’s arrangement of the same song (an old blues standard).[/li][li]The main guitar riff for “Bummer” is copped from Hawkwind’s “Time We Left This World Today”.[/li][/ul]  
There are probably a few more I’m forgetting…

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/70 "2015-09-28T18:11:52Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> Money’s drummer on the _Can’t Hold Back_ album, Mike Baird, plays two measures of Led Zeppelin’s “When the Levee Breaks” during the bridge of “Take Me Home Tonight”. Might not count as a sample since Baird actually played the drum beats in the studio, though.
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> EDIT: reading upthread, I guess Baird is \*quoting \*LZ, then 😃

How do you know that’s what it is?

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/71 "2015-09-29T10:25:55Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> **Garbage** _Stupid Girl_ sampled the drum intro from _Train in Vain_ by **The Clash**

Yeah, it may not be as common as with hip hop but lots of rock/pop artists over the past couple of decades have sampled drum beats.

These two use Led Zep’s [When the Levee Breaks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbrjRKB586s):  
Chapterhouse, [Pearl](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PsN_DfnHQU)  
Sophie B Hawkins, [Damn, I Wish I Was Your Lover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6r-k9Bk6o)

And this one uses Bobby Byrd’s [Hot Pants](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7doq5HouVQ)  
The Stone Roses, [Fools Gold](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBsazIACpYM)

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/72 "2015-09-29T13:22:50Z")

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[Goldfinger’s cover of Duran Duran’s Rio](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dIpGMe7YWA) segues into the guitar riff from _Rainbow in the Dark_ by Dio and the lyrics change to

His name is Dio  
Ronnie James Dio  
His name is Dio  
Ronnie James Dio

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/73 "2015-09-29T18:36:48Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> How do you know that’s what it is?

😕

That’s what it sounds like. I don’t have a link to any quotes about it, or sheet music to refer to or anything like that, though.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/74 "2015-09-29T19:04:38Z")

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Martin Mull’s ["Licks Off of Records](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNP2i4UpWkg)" samples “Day Tripper,” “Sunshine of Your Love,” and “Satisfaction” at the end.

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rock-samples-in-rock-songs/731560/75 "2015-09-29T19:50:45Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> [Goldfinger’s cover of Duran Duran’s Rio](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dIpGMe7YWA) segues into the guitar riff from _Rainbow in the Dark_ by Dio and the lyrics change to
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> His name is Dio  
> Ronnie James Dio  
> His name is Dio  
> Ronnie James Dio

and they change the song just before that so they are singing Rio over a Dio track, Now I want to hear that song.

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