# Rocker Ted Nugent threatens to assassinate President Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089 "2012-04-17T22:36:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/61 "2012-04-18T10:00:00Z")
> [@voguevixen](#): > > How have I lived to be this age without knowing this? His music is not “my style of music” but I’ve always given him a pass for his ye-haw I shoot my own food sort of life because he literally does eat what he kills and as a carnivore who am I to judge…but DRAFT DODGING? F that shit. Killing the president is also a “no-no” in my book. Gotta admit he had a unique…style…when it came to dodging the draft. But it gets better. Here is Nugent talking about what he _would have done_ had he gone to Vietnam: > [@](#): > > “… if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody,” he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990." > > SOURCE: [http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a1\_1250550290](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a1_1250550290) So, he would have been a bigger menace to our own troops than the NVA. The guy is seriously not right in the head. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/62 "2012-04-18T10:10:30Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Where, in that statement, did Nugent say he was going to kill Obama? Um, OK, what do \*you \*think Nugent actually meant? _Why_ would be either dead or in jail? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/63 "2012-04-18T10:36:52Z")
I’m not huge on the whole “gun fetishist” line of argument that gets taken in gun control threads, but I really do think it applies to Mr. Nugent. He really does seem to get off on holding weapons, talking about weapons, etc. He always seems to be waving them around or bragging about how he would use them. Worth noting that when he gets all chest thumpy about his guns, it never seems to be about defending his family or stopping criminals. Tends to be more along the lines of Yosemite Sam. Ah well. I’m sure all that hyper masculine bluster is a way to protect his creamy nougat center. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/64 "2012-04-18T10:45:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > _Why_ would be either dead or in jail? Clearly, once Obama secures a second term, he is going to unleash his true Kenyan Muslim Socialist Agenda™ and ban all firearms. At which point, Mr. Nugent will be at the top of the ATF list, and he will either be arrested, or gunned down in a blaze of glory defending his (and our) constitutional rights. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/65 "2012-04-18T12:05:54Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > He made the statement to a meeting of NRA lobbyists, and he followed it up by stating that they should chop off the heads of the Democrats in November. No, he was not using a metaphor. > > As a Life Member of the NRA, I condemn his position, his statements, and will be letting the NRA know that they can kiss any support from me in the future goodbye. > > Nugent should be shipped off to Gitmo. Or shot as a traitor. Life member here here, too. I agree with you on all particulars. Nugent, on his best days, is no more than a bufoon and I’ve never been happy with his presence on the board of directors. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/66 "2012-04-18T12:31:38Z")
I just want to say that I really, really regret having downloaded “The Best of the Amboy Dukes”. Even though it was on sale. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/67 "2012-04-18T12:36:48Z")
Hmm, so the serial pedophile and draft dodging braggart is trash talking. I doubt he’ll go to jail but I hope they put the scare into him. Might be nice to not have this squicky subhuman as a primary spokesman for gun rights (I speak as a gun owner). ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/68 "2012-04-18T12:41:54Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > What I would like to know is how anyone who has at least three functioning brain cells thinks that statement is a threat against Obama. If they had three functioning brain cells, they wouldn’t think it was a threat. > [@](#): > > You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. _:shrugs:_ Apparently a lot of people on the SDMB can’t get an erection unless they are thinking about Republicans. And it’s Wednesday. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/69 "2012-04-18T12:49:31Z")
He’s a serial pedophile? Nugent, I mean. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/70 "2012-04-18T12:51:45Z")
Nugent is a douche, but having seen the video, I don’t see a threat. It could be he means “I will kill Obama;” it could just as easily be “I will be killed or jailed by the evil Obama regime.” Given the context of his rant (Against Supreme Court rulings), and given that “if \_\_\_\_ is elected, they will cruelly oppress us” rhetoric is pretty standard from both sides, I default to the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/71 "2012-04-18T13:13:06Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > He’s a serial pedophile? Nugent, I mean. Not sure where that came from. About the closest I know that comes to that is the following which, while adding to his creepiness, does not label him as a pedophile in my mind: > [@](#): > > In 1978, Nugent began a relationship with seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa. Due to the age difference they could not marry so Nugent joined Massa’s parents in signing documents to make himself her legal guardian, an arrangement that Spin magazine ranked in October 2000 as #63 on their list of the “100 Sleaziest Moments in Rock”. > > SOURCE: [Ted Nugent - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent#Personal_life) ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/72 "2012-04-18T13:19:47Z")
I think it could also mean that Nugent fears that a 2nd Obama term means that the evil government will kill or jail him, and that it’s not a death threat. What I can’t figure out is if that is more stupid or less stupid than a veiled threat. Does he think they are going to round up all non-Democrats into concentration camps? Gun owners? Or what? Either way, the man’s a pure imbecile. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/73 "2012-04-18T13:20:41Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > Nice to know that you hold the Secret Service’s judgement as to what is a threat, in such utter contempt. > > What then is your parsing of that quote? What meaning do you think he was trying to impart? What, is he saying, would kill him, and/or for what would he be put in jail? Quite possibly he was implying that in his second term Obama would establish a Stalinist state and round up all the counter-revolutionaries, meaning that Nugent would end up in an internment camp where he would eventually be executed. A lot of people have this narcissistic fantasy about being a bold enemy of oppression who dies gloriously for the cause. There was no explicit, and probably no implicit, threat in Nugent’s words, but someone definitely needs to take him aside and tell him to calm a down a bit. He certainly seems to be suffering from a bad case of Celebrity Bubble Syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/74 "2012-04-18T13:25:55Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Nugent is a douche, but having seen the video, I don’t see a threat. > > It could be he means “I will kill Obama;” it could just as easily be “I will be killed or jailed by the evil Obama regime.” > > Given the context of his rant (Against Supreme Court rulings), and given that “if \_\_\_\_ is elected, they will cruelly oppress us” rhetoric is pretty standard from both sides, I default to the latter. Yeah, I think his other comments are much more readily interpreted as a direct physical threat to the president (or, at the least, Democrats in general). This one, while majorly idiotic, isn’t quite there. He probably envisions himself holed up in a bunker, defending himself from the evil Obama regime, either killed or captured for being a True Patriot. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/75 "2012-04-18T13:40:29Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Apparently a lot of people on the SDMB can’t get an erection unless they are thinking about Republicans. And it’s Wednesday. When you play Jenga with your turds, let them dry a bit first and they’ll stack higher. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/76 "2012-04-18T14:02:32Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Does he think they are going to round up all non-Democrats into concentration camps? Gun owners? Or what? Yes. I haven’t heard much about it lately, but early in the Obama’s “regime”, there was a meme floating around among the right wing nuts that Obama was building secret concentration camps. Great headline, btw: [Secret camps and guillotines? Groups make birthers look sane](http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/08/28/74549/secret-camps-and-guillotines-groups.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — Is the federal government building secret camps to lock up people who criticize President Barack Obama? > > Will it truck off young people to camps to brainwash them into liking Obama’s agenda? Are government officials planning to replicate the French Revolution’s Reign of Terror, using the guillotine to silence their domestic enemies? > > No. The charges, of course, are not true. > > However, the accusations are out there, a series of fantastic claims fed by paranoia about the government. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/77 "2012-04-18T14:04:36Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Apparently a lot of people on the SDMB can’t get an erection unless they are thinking about Republicans. And it’s Wednesday. Hah! I posted on Tuesday! Regards that. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/78 "2012-04-18T14:09:16Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > This is not really a debate. > > In order to allow the appropriate expressions regarding Nugent’s mindset or intelligence, I am moving this to The BBQ Pit. I’m surprised you didn’t just close it… no I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/79 "2012-04-18T14:13:06Z")
Doesn’t this whole thing kind of make Ted look like a wuss? I mean if he feels that Barack Obama is such a threat to America, why has he waited so long? Shouldn’t he have done whatever it is he’s hinting he might do back in 2009? John Wayne wouldn’t have said, _“Okay, you stole half my herd of cattle. But I’m warning you. If you come back and steal the rest of them, I’ll get mad and I might do something to you.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/80 "2012-04-18T14:17:52Z")
Pffft! What else is the right going to do to fire up their base, talk about their stand on the issues?!? ‘We’re going to eliminate the department of Education! We’re going to turn America into a 3rd-world petro-state!’ Nah. They gotta do something. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089.md?page=5)