# Rocker Ted Nugent threatens to assassinate President Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089 "2012-04-17T22:36:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/81 "2012-04-18T14:22:53Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Does he think they are going to round up all non-Democrats into concentration camps? Gun owners? Or what? Well, [gun sales have been soaring](http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gun-sales-booming-doomsday-obama-zombies/story?id=16073797) recently in fear of an Obama second term. Cuz you know Obama has spent his whole first term going after gun owners. :rolleyes: The mentality baffles me. Even IF Obama went after guns in his second term he’d need to get past congress and, perhaps, the Supreme Court. Both of which are substantial hurdles. And even IF he could do all that it’d take months to years to sort out. Obama cannot wake up one morning and declare guns are illegal and _POOF_ it happens. There’d be lots of time to see the train coming and do something about it. Rationality seems to be in short supply for a lot of these people. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/82 "2012-04-18T14:32:55Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Well, [gun sales have been soaring](http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gun-sales-booming-doomsday-obama-zombies/story?id=16073797) recently in fear of an Obama second term. > > Cuz you know Obama has spent his whole first term going after gun owners. :rolleyes: > > The mentality baffles me. Even IF Obama went after guns in his second term he’d need to get past congress and, perhaps, the Supreme Court. Both of which are substantial hurdles. And even IF he could do all that it’d take months to years to sort out. Obama cannot wake up one morning and declare guns are illegal and _POOF_ it happens. There’d be lots of time to see the train coming and do something about it. > > Rationality seems to be in short supply for a lot of these people. They see the president as having a bunch of buttons and dials on his desk. One button launches the nukes, another makes guns illegal, and there’s a dial where he sets the gas prices. More dials for inflation and unemployment. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/83 "2012-04-18T14:33:44Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Rationality seems to be in short supply for a lot of these people. I honestly think many of them are rational, but they have bad information. They are basing their actions on what they think the world is, not what it actually is. If they think Obama will magic guns away, they don’t understand how limited his power is because they hear over and over again about how he can do it. The right-wing echo chamber is a powerful beast. Look at the sway it has over Clothy and Shodan. Both of those dudes don’t come across as actually stupid, but they honestly believe drivel. And because they think their fake-facts are true, they lash out at the people they think are trying to attack them. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/84 "2012-04-18T14:39:02Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > When you play Jenga with your turds, let them dry a bit first and they’ll stack higher. I bow to the voice of experience. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/85 "2012-04-18T14:45:04Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Hah! I posted on Tuesday! > > Regards that. If it takes you that long usually, you might want to seek medical attention. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/86 "2012-04-18T14:45:34Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I bow to the voice of experience. > > Regards, > Shodan Well, a lot of us have experience dealing with your shit, since you toss it into threads and leave. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/87 "2012-04-18T14:45:59Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Pffft! What else is the right going to do to fire up their base, talk about their stand on the issues?!? ‘We’re going to eliminate the department of Education! We’re going to turn America into a 3rd-world petro-state!’ Nah. They gotta do something. It’s kind of hard to terrify people over a re-election campaign. What are you going to say? “For God’s sake, America, wake up! Barack Obama had no sooner set foot in the Oval Office, then he issued an Executive Order authorizing a National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform! And you know what happened then! Ten months later that commission released its report! Do we want something like that to happen again in 2013?” ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/88 "2012-04-18T15:03:55Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I honestly think many of them are rational, but they have bad information. They are basing their actions on what they think the world is, not what it actually is. Doesn’t that define an irrational person? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/89 "2012-04-18T15:08:25Z")
[Ted Nugent stands by his NRA rant.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/ted-nugent-obama-remarks_n_1432988.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003) > [@](#): > > “I’m a black Jew at a Nazi-Klan rally, and there are some power-abusing, corrupt monsters in our federal government that despise me because I have the audacity to speak the truth.” He thinks he’s being investigated for talking truth to power but he never explains if this truth involves killing the president or killing himself. He needs to clarify his position. Perhaps if he said something like, “Wang dang dilly, love that underage poontang! There’s an arrow in my pork chop! Dang varmint hootenoggies!” BTW, isn’t he from Detriot? Why does he have such a hick country accent? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/90 "2012-04-18T15:11:26Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Well, a lot of us have experience dealing with your shit, since you toss it into threads and leave. In all fairness, I don’t mind so much the part where he leaves quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/91 "2012-04-18T15:15:23Z")
To even us supporters of gun rights, is it still in doubt that the NRA isn’t in the gun-Rights business, rather than the Keeping the NRA In Business business? In all organizations like this, membership falls into two catagories: Cynical Opportunist and Useful Idiot. Guess into which one Ted Nugent fits? ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/92 "2012-04-18T15:19:19Z")
> [@What the .... ?!?!](#): > > … > **[Ellipsis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis)** > > The ellipsis (/əˈlɪpsɪs/, plural ellipses; from Ancient Greek: ἔλλειψις, élleipsis, lit. 'leave out'), rendered ..., alternatively described as suspension points: 19 /dots, points: 19 /periods of ellipsis, or ellipsis points,: 19  or colloquially, dot-dot-dot, is a punctuation mark consisting of a series of three dots. An ellipsis can be used in many ways, such as for intentional omission of text or numbers, to imply a concept without using words. Style guides differ on how Opinions differ on... I also found [this](http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/tx-ted-nugent-kill-this-devil-and-take.html) on paedophilia. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/93 "2012-04-18T15:22:34Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > In all fairness, I don’t mind so much the part where he leaves quickly. The best part of watching him leave is the majestic furl of his mullet as he spins on his heel. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/94 "2012-04-18T15:29:32Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I honestly think many of them are rational, but they have bad information. They are basing their actions on what they think the world is, not what it actually is. > > If they think Obama will magic guns away, they don’t understand how limited his power is because they hear over and over again about how he can do it. The right-wing echo chamber is a powerful beast. Look at the sway it has over Clothy and Shodan. Both of those dudes don’t come across as actually stupid, but they honestly believe drivel. And because they think their fake-facts are true, they lash out at the people they think are trying to attack them. As I noted upthread, I have a very low opinion of Ted Nugent and I wish he would go away. Further, I will note that Obama has done nothing at all WRT to gun regulations. However, the paranoia over potential unilateral anti-gun activity by a POTUS is not entirely without basis. As the head of the executive branch, he can issue executive orders that pro-gun people will find odious and for which there is no recourse. Other presidents have done so. He can ban importation of guns and/or ammunition from foreign nations. It is because of such an order that Chinese guns, save for a couple of shotguns, are no longer sold in the US though they are freely bought and sold in Canada. He can order the BATFE to interpret regulations in the strictest possible way; this becomes important when you consider that the BATFE can restrict firearms based on whether or not they have a “sporting purpose” and they are the ones who get to decide what a “sporting purpose” is. Under his orders they can, through licensing regs, reduce the number of retail outlets for firearms. I am not saying he would do any of these things, simply that they have been done by previous presidents. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/95 "2012-04-18T15:36:12Z")
Dammit. Now I have a shitty Ted Nugent song in my head. He can fuck off for that alone. I hope if the SS (!) interviews him, he gets scared and pees his pants (by accident, not because he thinks he can get out of it because of that). ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/96 "2012-04-18T15:44:06Z")
Just to add to the wonder that is Ted Nugent, a few years back when he opened for some other band, he went off on a tirade about the local sheriffs office and was saying we should all go down there together and…do something, I don’t remember if he said shoot them or just implied violence of some sort. I didn’t know he was a nutjob before that, and at the time I thought he was just trying to get crowd approval in some inappropriate way. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/97 "2012-04-18T15:55:47Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > However, the paranoia over potential unilateral anti-gun activity by a POTUS is not entirely without basis. > As the head of the executive branch, he can issue executive orders that pro-gun people will find odious and for which there is no recourse. Other presidents have done so. He can ban importation of guns and/or ammunition from foreign nations. It is because of such an order that Chinese guns, save for a couple of shotguns, are no longer sold in the US though they are freely bought and sold in Canada. And Lord knows if there’s one thing God-fearing, red-blooded, red state Americans hate with a fury, it’s being deprived of their Chinese imports and forced to buy American. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/98 "2012-04-18T16:05:32Z")
Well, I owned a couple Chinese-made guns and was not overwhelmed by their quality. It was largely a non-issue to me when they were banned from importation. The most I can say for them was that they were inexpensive and could be used as the basis for a project gun. OTOH, there are some very interesting, good quality guns from Israel, Australia, and several other countries that were similarly banned. The arbitrariness of how these decisions are made boggles the mind. I can’t buy a Tavor or a Gailil frm Israel or a Dragunov from Russia, but I could buy (if I wanted them which I don’t) stacks of indifferently made AK-clones from Romania. It is this very arbitrariness that irritates a fellow. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/99 "2012-04-18T16:20:45Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Well, I owned a couple Chinese-made guns and was not overwhelmed by their quality. It was largely a non-issue to me when they were banned from importation. The most I can say for them was that they were inexpensive and could be used as the basis for a project gun. OTOH, there are some very interesting, good quality guns from Israel, Australia, and several other countries that were similarly banned. The arbitrariness of how these decisions are made boggles the mind. I can’t buy a Tavor or a Gailil frm Israel or a Dragunov from Russia, but I could buy (if I wanted them which I don’t) stacks of indifferently made AK-clones from Romania. It is this very arbitrariness that irritates a fellow. So you are irritated, and you own a gun. You must be threatening to assassinate someone, but I can’t figure out who. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/100 "2012-04-18T16:22:38Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You must be threatening to assassinate someone, but I can’t figure out who. Ted Nugent, It all makes sense now! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089.md?page=6)