# Rocker Ted Nugent threatens to assassinate President Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089 "2012-04-17T22:36:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/101 "2012-04-18T16:25:02Z")
… and the cycle of life continues and/or is complete. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/102 "2012-04-18T16:25:39Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > So you are irritated, and you own a gun. Yes, but it’s not a _Chinese_ gun. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/103 "2012-04-18T16:33:56Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > (snip) Further, I will note that Obama has done nothing at all WRT to gun regulations.(snip) In point of fact, President Obama has signed at least two pieces of legislation in regard to gun regulations. One allowed people with carry permits to carry inside federal parks, and one allowed people with permits to carry on Amtrak trains. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/104 "2012-04-18T16:36:05Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > In point of fact, President Obama has signed at least two pieces of legislation in regard to gun regulations. One allowed people with carry permits to carry inside federal parks, and one allowed people with permits to carry on Amtrak trains. He required permits!! That monster!! ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/105 "2012-04-18T16:38:37Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Yes, but it’s not a Chinese gun. So you are cheesed at Hu Jin-tao? Fine, but if you take a shot at him, three hours later you will want to shoot someone else. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/106 "2012-04-18T16:40:49Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > In point of fact, President Obama has signed at least two pieces of legislation in regard to gun regulations. One allowed people with carry permits to carry inside federal parks, and one allowed people with permits to carry on Amtrak trains. I thought it was implicit that I was referring to restrictive regulations. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/107 "2012-04-18T16:42:58Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, now I’m curious… does Nugent mean a re-elected Obama will have him killed or interred? That a re-elected Obama will drive Nugent to criminal activity? Yes! And then he’ll take off, instead of waiting for Nugent to come back out! Isn’t that how everyone interpreted those statements? ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/108 "2012-04-18T16:48:51Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > In all organizations like this, membership falls into two catagories: Cynical Opportunist and Useful Idiot. Guess into which one Ted Nugent fits? You might consider adding a category for “Useless Idiot”. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/109 "2012-04-18T17:08:43Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Well, [gun sales have been soaring](http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gun-sales-booming-doomsday-obama-zombies/story?id=16073797) recently in fear of an Obama second term. > > Cuz you know Obama has spent his whole first term going after gun owners. :rolleyes: > > The mentality baffles me. Even IF Obama went after guns in his second term he’d need to get past congress and, perhaps, the Supreme Court. Both of which are substantial hurdles. And even IF he could do all that it’d take months to years to sort out. Obama cannot wake up one morning and declare guns are illegal and _POOF_ it happens. There’d be lots of time to see the train coming and do something about it. > > Rationality seems to be in short supply for a lot of these people. It’s not that they expect Obama to start grabbing guns upon re-election. It’s more that they’re expecting serious trouble in November if Obama loses in an extremely close election. My nephew, my older brother and his brother-in-law, my step-brother, and my niece’s husband are all gunning up. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/110 "2012-04-18T17:18:08Z")
That was actually funny, **Shodan**. ---
**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/111 "2012-04-18T17:20:46Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > It’s not that they expect Obama to start grabbing guns upon re-election. It’s more that they’re expecting serious trouble in November if Obama loses in an extremely close election. My nephew, my older brother and his brother-in-law, my step-brother, and my niece’s husband are all gunning up. So they’re paranoid _and_ racist, but somehow that’s better than when they were just being thought of as paranoid. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/112 "2012-04-18T17:25:48Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Life member here here, too. I agree with you on all particulars. Nugent, on his best days, is no more than a bufoon and I’ve never been happy with his presence on the board of directors. I appreciate the sentiments from you and **silenus** as NRA members. The sad thing is that Nugent taints all of the NRA with his idiotic and sad posturing. He is a caricature of a “gun nut” that seems to like bluster and braggadocio rather than reason - guns really do seem to be a penis substitute for this idiot. He’s a figure that the rest of us can (and do) point and laugh at. The NRA membership votes for the board. Nugent was elected to sit on the board. This means that by definition he is representative of the views of the membership of the NRA. The membership voted him in. The membership approves of him. It’s great that the two of you have disowned Nugent. Sadly though, the NRA as a whole does not share your disgust of this fool. The organization is tainted by it’s approval of him, and their elevation of him to a position of leadership. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/113 "2012-04-18T17:27:26Z")
At least the tighty rightys have their own rock star. Beach Boys were pretty much worn out. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/114 "2012-04-18T17:27:51Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > It’s not that they expect Obama to start grabbing guns upon re-election. It’s more that they’re expecting serious trouble in November if Obama loses in an extremely close election. My nephew, my older brother and his brother-in-law, my step-brother, and my niece’s husband are all gunning up. What do they mean? Like the armed uprising that we all witnessed back in November 2000? Remember the riots, the bombings, the reruns of _My Mother the Car_? The horror… the horror! My take, such as it is, on Nugent is that the man is an acknowledged popular right-wing noisemaker who is regarded by a significant percentage of right-wing diehards as a leader. When such an individual makes rash and deliberately outrageous statements, they carry more weight than the similar mutterings of a random alcoholic homeless guy in an alley somewhere urban. The homeless guy rarely gets to be interviewed about his opinions on national politics, and yet his opinions are based upon the same solid framework of reality that Mr. Nugent’s are. If **Random Homeless Guy** were to post the same drivel as **Ted Nugent** on a message board, the former would have much more of a chance of being labelled a troll than the latter. After all, the former never penned the immortal words to _Cat Scratch Fever_. "The first time that I got it I was just ten years old I got it from some kitty next door I went and see the Dr. and He gave me the cure I think I got it some more " Pure poetry. What genius! ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/115 "2012-04-18T17:30:41Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Is any of _your_ trio of neurons familiar with the concept of an implied threat? > > Hint: it’s what mob extortionists rely on when they say “nice house… be a real shame if something happened to it” instead of “nice house… if you don’t pay me I’m going to come back and commit arson!” Where is there an implied threat in what he said? By your definition, we should have been investigating Alec Baldwin when he said that he was going to leave the country if George Bush got re-elected. That was very clearly a threat to kill GWB and boogie off into the sunset. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/116 "2012-04-18T17:31:04Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > What do they mean? Like the armed uprising that we all witnessed back in November 2000? Remember the riots, the bombings, the reruns of _My Mother the Car_? > The horror… the horror! (I think the implication is that the…people…who…\*look like \*Obama…if you get my drift…will…_riot_…as those people are known to do. Gore was…y’know…white.) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/117 "2012-04-18T17:36:16Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Where is there an implied threat in what he said? > > By your definition, we should have been investigating Alec Baldwin when he said that he was going to leave the country if George Bush got re-elected. That was very clearly a threat to kill GWB and boogie off into the sunset. [foghornleghorn]Nice boy, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice[/f] ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/118 "2012-04-18T17:44:46Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Where is there an implied threat in what he said? > > By your definition, we should have been investigating Alec Baldwin when he said that he was going to leave the country if George Bush got re-elected. That was very clearly a threat to kill GWB and boogie off into the sunset. C’mon dude. It’s clear that at least one reasonable interpretation of what Nugent said is that he’d be dead or in jail because of assassinating Obama. Obviously, that’s how the Secret Service saw it. I’m on record saying another interpretation is possible. Can you at least admit Nugent _could_ have been referring to assassination as well? Even if he was only joking? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/119 "2012-04-18T17:46:48Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > It’s not that they expect Obama to start grabbing guns upon re-election. It’s more that they’re expecting serious trouble in November if Obama loses in an extremely close election. My nephew, my older brother and his brother-in-law, my step-brother, and my niece’s husband are all gunning up. That fairly busts the community gut, being that the only riots I can recall from the hotly contested 2000 election involved white Republican forming a grassroo… er, being bused in _en masse_ to protest a recount. Granted, Gore was no darkie, so your relations’ odds of seeing a holy war against the mud people are _slightly_ better, but I still predict they’re in for disappointment. Good news is (since I’m sure they all reside in heavily black neighborhoods) there’s always hoodie patrol in the meantime to keep their aim sharp. > [@Clothahump](#): > > By your definition, we should have been investigating Alec Baldwin when he said that he was going to leave the country if George Bush got re-elected. That was very clearly a threat to kill GWB and boogie off into the sunset. An excellent example of a statement with no implied threat (unless you’re threatened by the idea of Baldwin’s emigration). Now print that out, print out the Nuge’s statement, put them side by side, and concentrate _very very_ hard while squinting, and maybe it will come to you. Pretend it’s one of those “spot the differences” puzzles your grandkids solve for you when you get stuck. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/120 "2012-04-18T17:48:58Z")
Oh, he meant it as a friendly jest, obviously; [he’s a non violent guy](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/18/ted-nugent-_n_1434830.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009). (It’s always fun to see a tough talking coward backtrack.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089.md?page=7)