# Rocker Ted Nugent threatens to assassinate President Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089 "2012-04-17T22:36:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/141 "2012-04-18T21:23:39Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why is that obvious? Why is it obvious that the secret service saw it as a threat? Because they don’t question you if you don’t threaten the president. I think your, “Give Conservatives Massive Benefit of the Doubt” circuit is tripping. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/142 "2012-04-18T21:25:23Z")
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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/143 "2012-04-18T21:26:39Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why is that obvious? Why else would they question him with regards to his statements? Trading venison recipes? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/144 "2012-04-18T21:27:49Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Why else would they question him with regards to his statements? Trading venison recipes? “Mr. Nugent, we’re big fans. Please don’t commit suicide if Obama wins the election.” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/145 "2012-04-18T21:33:30Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > If they had three functioning brain cells, they wouldn’t think it was a threat. _:shrugs:_ > > Apparently a lot of people on the SDMB can’t get an erection unless they are thinking about Republicans. And it’s Wednesday. > > Regards, > Shodan Projecting much? Come on, we all know you are on this board because you get your rocks off telling all us liberals that we are so horrible. Oh, and nice job calling **Bricker** a liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/146 "2012-04-18T21:33:42Z")
You know, there’s a difference between these two statements: “I don’t agree that Nugent meant he would try to kill Obama.” and “I don’t see any possible way to interpret Nugent’s statement as he would try to kill Obama.” The former is a difference of opinion. The latter is either disingenuous or rock-stupid. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/147 "2012-04-18T21:34:01Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Why else would they question him with regards to his statements? Trading venison recipes? What makes you think they questioned him? Read the linked article, or read my post #39 in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/148 "2012-04-18T21:34:05Z")
When the NRA convention was held in Pittsburgh a few years ago, I saw Nugent at his booth selling autographed arrows and similar grot. He looked like any tired, old, grumpy man whose feet hurt and is peeved because he has to piss again because of his goddamned prostate. This kind of public woofing at politicians, I expect, is one of the few ways left to him to feel virile and relevant. I’m glad it backfired on the chicken hawk SOB this time. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/149 "2012-04-18T21:34:43Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why is that obvious? Better question: why is it _not_ obvious to you? The “dead or in jail” thing implies that one or the other will be the consequence of something he’s going to do in direct response to Obama’s reelection. Is he really going to do anything? No, because he’s a pussy blowhard throwing red meat to his fan base, but that doesn’t mean we can’t possibly glean the meaning from his mysterious words. If someone said “I don’t care if that kid is a cop’s son-- if he comes near my daughter again, I’ll end up dead or in jail,” would the meaning not be clear, or would we all still be sitting around pretending to scratch our heads and straining to imagine what could POSSIBLY by meant by such a statement? Ted knows what he meant. It was code that was clearly understood by his moronic fans, but vague enough that he wouldn’t be arrested and we could enjoy this sham of a debate. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/150 "2012-04-18T21:43:34Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What makes you think they questioned him? Read the linked article, or read my post #39 in this thread. [They’ve said](http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/18/11268020-secret-service-to-interview-ted-nugent) they’re going to question him and Nugent says the conversation is set to happen on Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/151 "2012-04-18T21:43:48Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What makes you think they questioned him? Read the linked article, or read my post #39 in this thread. [http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/ted-nugent-to-meet-with-secret-service-thursday?m=1](http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/ted-nugent-to-meet-with-secret-service-thursday?m=1) The Secret Service will be meeting with Nugent Thursday. I can’t say for sure, but I imagine there will be some questioning going on. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/152 "2012-04-18T21:45:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > So you are irritated, and you own a gun. > > You must be threatening to assassinate someone, but I can’t figure out who. > > Regards, > Shodan Yes, because that’s the same thing as saying that, for instance, he’d wind up dead or in jail if you kept on trolling this messageboard. Even you are smart enough to know that would be a threat. \*Note: the hypothetical opinion in my post is not in any way endorsed by me. (After my first Warning for that type of thing, I make sure to cover my ass.) ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/153 "2012-04-18T22:23:12Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Er, maybe its clearer in context, but I can’t really see how the quoted text is a statement that he’s going to assassinate Obama. > > But in anycase, what’s the debate? If this is just a “rockstar says some crazy stuff” thread, you should probably as a mod to move it to Cafe Society. Saw the video. The general statement was supposed to do exactly what it did. He trolled the Government so he couldnt rant about how bad Obama is. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/154 "2012-04-18T22:26:50Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > [http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/ted-nugent-to-meet-with-secret-service-thursday?m=1](http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/ted-nugent-to-meet-with-secret-service-thursday?m=1) > > The Secret Service will be meeting with Nugent Thursday. I can’t say for sure, but I imagine there will be some questioning going on. I wonder if Nugent is going to stop going to the bathroom, and do the Secret Service interview while sitting in his own urine and excrement? I mean he has a past history, does he not? ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/155 "2012-04-18T22:32:25Z")
> [@dngnb8](#): > > He trolled the Government so he couldnt rant about how bad Obama is. Nah, he trolled the government to reassure himself that he’s still famous enough for someone to notice. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/156 "2012-04-18T23:36:02Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > [http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/ted-nugent-to-meet-with-secret-service-thursday?m=1](http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/ted-nugent-to-meet-with-secret-service-thursday?m=1) > > The Secret Service will be meeting with Nugent Thursday. I can’t say for sure, but I imagine there will be some questioning going on. OK. I hadn’t seen that before. Now, on to the next question. Why do you assume that the Secret Service investigates only threats to the president’s life? Or, as some have said, Nugents comments might be construed to be a threat on Obama, but don’t necessarily have to be. I wouldn’t even say it’s the most obvious interpretation, although it certainly is one possibility. His earlier comments were much more threatening, and if they didn’t interview him then, perhaps this interview is more about his, shall we say, “entire opus” rather than this specific comment. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/157 "2012-04-19T00:47:48Z")
I rememberwhen, back during the Clinton years, he was photographed using pictures of Janet Reno and Hilary as shooting targets. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/158 "2012-04-19T00:51:32Z")
> [@Dr.Rieux](#): > > I rememberwhen, back during the Clinton years, he was photographed using pictures of Janet Reno and Hilary as shooting targets. Sadly, there is a large audience for those sorts of mean-spirited, divisive antics. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/159 "2012-04-19T00:55:28Z")
Ted Nugent clarifies who the real victim here is: > [@](#): > > “I’m a black Jew at a Nazi-Klan rally,” the 63-year-old gun enthusiast griped. “And there are some power-abusing, corrupt monsters in our federal government that despise me because I have the audacity to speak the truth.” > > Read more: [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/ted-nugent-backing-fiery-obama-remarks-a-black-jew-a-nazi-klan-rally-article-1.1063425#ixzz1sRXKaOQX](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/ted-nugent-backing-fiery-obama-remarks-a-black-jew-a-nazi-klan-rally-article-1.1063425#ixzz1sRXKaOQX) OK, maybe that should be Ted Nugent confirms how breathtakingly little he understands about the world. What is it with rich white male conservatives and their insane need to portray themselves as the real victims? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089/160 "2012-04-19T00:57:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That being said, Nugent’s a untalented loudmouth asshole Apparently somebody needs to dust off their copy of “Stranglehold”…baby. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rocker-ted-nugent-threatens-to-assassinate-president-obama/619089.md?page=9)