# "Rockstar Games", you are all a bunch of f'ing cowards.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 10, 2003, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098 "2003-12-10T05:47:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/21 "2003-12-10T14:51:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DeadlyAccurate \*  
> \*\*I find that rather scary personally. I wish the Supreme Court would step in and say that video games share the same free speech rights that books, movies and television shares. \*\*

The 7th and 8th circuits have done exactly that, in American Amusement Machine Association v. Kendrick and Interactive Digital Software Association v. St. Louis County. Each of those cases were appealed to the SC, but they declined to hear them. So they agree with the principle, but you’re right, it would be nice if they took the case just to announce it themselves.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/22 "2003-12-10T14:51:39Z")

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Oh Jesus. Kill all the **Bruce\_Daddy** s!!!

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**Author:** ![SeekingTruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@SeekingTruth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeekingTruth)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/23 "2003-12-10T15:03:49Z")

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Ludovic, I meant I wasn’t equating smoking to playing a video game, but that this is starting out the same. One freedom lost here, one there, they add up. I thought that was pretty clear, but I’ve been wrong before.

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/24 "2003-12-10T15:52:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bruce\_Daddy \*  
> \*\*Rockstar does not have big cojones. All my friends have big cajones. \*\*

Thas right **Bruce** do _you_ have beeeeg cajones? If you want to fight this like men you have to have beeeeg cajones.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/25 "2003-12-10T15:59:19Z")

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I, too, agree that the sky is falling. Never before has a company caved in to pressure in a minor way to satisfy a loud silly complaint, all the while revelling in the publicity and profits the loud silly complaints garner for them.

What next? Will Bloomberg insist that what they’ve done isn’t good enough and continue talking about them, thereby keeping their product in the news and thereby getting it more free publicity? Armageddon, here we come!

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/26 "2003-12-10T16:34:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Muad’Dib \*  
> \*\*Thas right **Bruce** do _you_ have beeeeg cajones? If you want to fight this like men you have to have beeeeg cajones. \*\*

Go get reinforcements from the cafe!

I’ll stop now.

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**Author:** ![NutWrench](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nutwrench/32/20193_2.png) [@NutWrench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NutWrench)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/27 "2003-12-10T16:45:53Z")

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> Mayor Bloomberg wants to investigate Rockstar on human rights violations.

I think Mayor Bloomberg should take responsibility for his own emotional well-being and comfort.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/28 "2003-12-10T16:59:28Z")

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I think Bloomberg is a fucking tool who needs to go crawl under a rock somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/29 "2003-12-10T17:21:56Z")

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At least for the PC version, I assume an unofficial patch will come out to put it the original dialogue back in.

Which gives me an idea; how about replacing all the dialogue with patches? “Kill all the Haitians!” becomes “Kill all the Haitians! And that donkey-fucker Mayor Bloomberg! And those stupid cunts who have no concept of context!”

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/30 "2003-12-11T00:35:58Z")

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Shit, I gotta go run out and buy this before the adulterated versions start appearing on shelves! Dammit!

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**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/31 "2003-12-11T00:48:16Z")

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> Ludovic, I meant I wasn’t equating smoking to playing a video game, but that this is starting out the same. One freedom lost here, one there, they add up. I thought that was pretty clear, but I’ve been wrong before.

You might as well say this all started back when we made duels to the death illegal. It would make about as much sense.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/32 "2003-12-11T06:11:21Z")

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“Future Versions”?

Pardon me for asking, but haven’t they pretty much made a version of VC for nearly every system avialable at this point? Seems like they closing the barn doors when the cows have neatly taken a few steps outside.

Are future ‘printings’ (not versions) subject to this restriction?

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**Author:** ![Herge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Herge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Herge)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/33 "2003-12-11T14:43:14Z")

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I never asked your sister out!

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-games-you-are-all-a-bunch-of-fing-cowards/218098/34 "2003-12-11T18:49:54Z")

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[This](http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/7304886.htm) sure-as-shit isn’t going to help.

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> After learning that Lynch had no place to stay a year ago, JoLynn talked her father into letting Lynch stay in their Montville Township home. A week later, on Nov. 2, her stabbed and beaten body was discovered by Mishne. Lynch was arrested shortly thereafter and charged with the murder.
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> Mishne said he has a pretty good idea why Lynch is trying to torment him.
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> Aside from his comments to reporters that he hopes Lynch `rots'' in hell, Mishne has been outspoken in his belief that violent video games -- specifically the Grand Theft Auto series that Lynch played frequently the week of the murder -- contributed to the crime. `I believe we are dealing with a twisted mind,’’ he said. ``He knows he’s heading off to prison for a long time.’’
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> Mishne recently persuaded the Medina Wal-Mart to pull its copies of the game off the shelves out of respect for the pending trial and the memory of his daughter. He’s also retained Florida attorney Jack B. Thompson, an outspoken critic of violent video games, as he contemplates a possible civil lawsuit against software manufacturers.

I really, really, _hate_ being put in a position where I’m obliged to side with a murdering little bastard on _anything_, but I can’t find fault with [his assessment](http://clevescene.com/issues/2003-12-10/feature2.html/1/index.html) of the GTA aspect of his ugly case:

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> _Do you regret killing JoLynn?_
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> No I don’t regret what I did and I never will. I did her a favor and satisfied all my needs while doing it! This GTA III stuff kills me though! What a crock of holy shit!

I’m on side with Mishne as far as the whole “rotting” thing goes, though.

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