# Rockstar: Supernova 12 Sept (unboxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 13, 2006, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536 "2006-09-13T13:40:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/21 "2006-09-14T05:29:44Z")
Btw, have you guys seen the House Band do ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ with Suzie from last year? It’s way cool. Not so much the lead singer (who’s okay, but nothing special), but the band arranged that song under 3 minutes, got all the important parts, hit all the timing perfectly, and nailed all the harmonies. [Check out the video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuBw4RKxcGk). ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/22 "2006-09-14T12:40:21Z")
I was always rooting for Lukas. I was surprised Toby was booted 2nd though. I thought he’d help the band get by a little while on the road with his style and energy. Personally I think the Supernova originals actually kinda… well suck. Now that they have their front who also seems to have a small talent for writing and a style that might work for the younger crowd, they might produce something… that is if the old guys actually try to mesh with their contest winner (Hard to say…) I think Dilana’s antics made the band think twice about being around her for an entire year… or less. Depends on when they get bored of it and split. She may have been a good fit too, so long as she didn’t write any music. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/23 "2006-09-14T13:01:15Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] Storm got the same deal, other than Gilby producing. She’ll be touring with the house band, Dave Navarro is recording with her, etc. And a newspaper article today from Australia said that Toby will be recording with Mark Burnett Productions. I imagine Magni will get some kind of deal as well. And of course, so did Ryan. I think part of the attraction of shows like this to people like Mark Burnett is that it gives them an opportunity to get a bunch of talented people under contract so that if they appear to ‘break out’ on the show and develop a following, the producers of the show get first crack at them. American Idol does the same thing. Supernova is going to have a problem on their tour though - after the House Band plays with the likes of Toby, Magni, Storm, and Dilana, and The Panic Channel does a set, it’s going to be hard for Supernova to top them. I think they’re the weakest of those three acts, and not just by a little. I must say that after seeing Lukas sing the ‘hey hey hey’ song, I liked it much better than Toby’s version. With Toby singing it, the song sounded like a frat party anthem - very lightweight, very 80’s. But Lukas put an angry edge and some cynicism behind it, which is exactly what that song needed. So in the end, I think Supernova picked the right guy. [/QUOTE] I agree all around - again, **Sam Stone** - I really noticed how Lukas’ take on the song was less sucky - the song still stinks, but his delivery was a clear highlight as to why he fits better than Toby. I didn’t find Toby’s dismissal perfunctory - just surprising that they kept Dilana in to the end. The minute they cut Toby it was obviously going to be Lukas, simply because Dilana can’t write for shit. It was a pretty good show - unfortunately, as we have all noted, we don’t have a lot of optimism about the band itself. I do think - regardless of whether I like him personally or not - that Lukas has a clear, assertive style and the ability to get inside a lyric - even a dumb one like Hey Hey Hey - that bodes well for him… ---
**Author:** ![Carlyjay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Carlyjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carlyjay)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/24 "2006-09-14T13:13:54Z")
Yikes. I think Lukas was a terrible choice. First of all, the guy can’t pronouce any words of the English language when he’s singing. I don’t know why this is; he speaks English perfectly well. The moment he starts singing, however, he gets all strangled and adopts this odd “accent” (I can only imagine it’s how he thinks a rock star ought to sound) and suddenly, nothing he sings can be understood. It’s a shame. Furthermore, I’m bewildered by the fact that Tommy said at the end “We have to go with our fans, and Lukas, you got the most votes” when they had said earlier that the bottom 3 were Magni, Toby and… Lukas! How could Lukas have the most votes _and_ be in the bottom three, when Dilana was _not_ in the bottom 3? The whole thing smells rotten. Not that it matters, though, since from what I’ve heard of SN’s songs, we won’t be missing much anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/25 "2006-09-14T13:19:07Z")
My husband and I were talking about it, and we both thought Lucas would have been a better “Prince” kinda guy…The Main Attraction, as it were, rather than being part of a group that includes famous dudes. He’s definitely got the flash, but all those egos rattling around on stage…I just don’t see it happening for any length of time. They should have chosen someone who was looking to be part of a band rather than the guy whose sun rises and sets on himself. Just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/26 "2006-09-14T13:47:59Z")
[QUOTE=Carlyjay] Yikes. I think Lukas was a terrible choice. First of all, the guy can’t pronouce any words of the English language when he’s singing. I don’t know why this is; he speaks English perfectly well. The moment he starts singing, however, he gets all strangled and adopts this odd “accent” (I can only imagine it’s how he thinks a rock star ought to sound) and suddenly, nothing he sings can be understood. It’s a shame. Furthermore, I’m bewildered by the fact that Tommy said at the end “We have to go with our fans, and Lukas, you got the most votes” when they had said earlier that the bottom 3 were Magni, Toby and… Lukas! How could Lukas have the most votes _and_ be in the bottom three, when Dilana was _not_ in the bottom 3? [/QUOTE] **Carlyjay** - remember: the 3 other than Dilana all ended up in the Bottom 2 _at some point during the voting_ (per Brooke Burke) - which might mean that Lukas was in the Bottom 2 at some point, but the votes came later and he ended up at the top at the end. I have no idea - but based on what was said last night, that is a possible scenario. As for his pronunciation - sure, I hear you. But listen to Axl Rose sing “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Doh-oh-ah” or Billie Joe Armstrong sing with his faux cockney or any number of other “liberties” singers take. I don’t love Lukas, but he comes across as legitimately rock n’ roll and a good fit with that band, so when I was trying to think objectively about it, I assumed he’d be the choice all along… ---
**Author:** ![Carlyjay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Carlyjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carlyjay)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/27 "2006-09-14T21:11:11Z")
_shudder_ Dilana has a much better voice and rock star persona. As did Magni, as far as I was concerned. Furthermore, Lukas looks like one of those pictures where you superimpose a baby’s head on the body of an adult. Not that this has anything to do with how he sings, but frankly, he isn’t a good singer, either. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/28 "2006-09-14T21:24:21Z")
I have to concur that Lukas did manage to polish the turd a little bit when performing that original. His songwriting shows some promise as well. Once he gets in the studio (especially if they’re willing to rework some arrangements and maybe let him contribute some hooks here and there), he might be able to help them make a sows ear into a purse. That might even have something to do with why they chose him. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/29 "2006-09-14T22:01:49Z")
I didn’t like Lukas at all, all along. Until his last performance of his original, when he sang it with just an acoustic instrument – and for the first time he actually _sang_, with understandable words and not nearly as many weird affectations with his voice. And my opinion of him did a 180 on the spot. Clearly, the kid has talent. I thought Toby would be a better tour performer, although he might have been too much competition with the girls; and Magni is just too competent for them. Actually, I thought any of them would be a better fit with the band then Dilana; she’s far too much of a drama queen, wanting all the attention on herself, and you can’t have that in the upstart. Kind of a blah ending to a blah season for me. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/30 "2006-09-15T00:19:49Z")
It wasn’t a blah season for me, because I watched it mainly just to hear some good music. And there was great music on this show, and great performances. Where else can you go on network TV and see an honest-to-God rock band blasting out Deep Purple or Jimi Hendrix? Some favorite highlights: - Dilana singing ‘Zombie’ the first time. Awesome. - Magni singing and playing Hendrix’s ‘Fire’ with the house band. Man, that rocked. - Magni singing “The Dolphin’s Cry” with his guitar. - Magni singing “Plush” by Stone Temple Pilots - Ryan doing the acoustic piano version of ‘Losing My Religion’ - Storm singing ‘Suffragette City’ with Dave Navarro on guitar. - Storm singing “Wish You Were Here”, and making herself and Jason Newstead cry. - Storm singing “Anything Anything” in a manic frenzy. - Storm singing Bowie’s “Changes” - Storm’s original ‘Ladylike’ - Lukas singing “Creep”. - Toby’s version of “Layla” - Josh singing 'Santaria" Those were all great rock performances. There were a bunch of others in there as well. Watched as nothing more than a music concert, it was very entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/31 "2006-09-15T03:45:50Z")
Not surprised to see Lukas win, a bit surprised that Toby went before Dilana and very glad that Storm escaped the cess-pit that is SubparNova. [This](http://stormlarge.com/ballzboard/viewtopic.php?t=1258) made me laugh, it’s been posted by one of the fans on Storm’s homepage forums… > [@](#): > > “Lukas’ new single” > While watching him perform last night this hit me as a possible #1, considering the court ruling and all: > > \*\*BAND WITH NO NAME \*\* > > \*On the first part of the Rock show > I was looking back at my life > There were streets and alleys and Hooter wings > I was poor and there was no bling > The first thing I met was Tommy Lee with a buzz > And the stage with no crowds > The audition was hot and the air was dry > But I was able to let out a growl > > Ive been through the contest for a Band with No Name > It felt good to be out of the rain > In the contest they help you remember your name > cause the script they hand you makes it so plain > La, la … \* ---
**Author:** ![Carlyjay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Carlyjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carlyjay)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536/32 "2006-09-15T13:46:15Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] It wasn’t a blah season for me, because I watched it mainly just to hear some good music. And there was great music on this show, and great performances. Where else can you go on network TV and see an honest-to-God rock band blasting out Deep Purple or Jimi Hendrix? Some favorite highlights: - Magni singing “The Dolphin’s Cry” with his guitar. [/QUOTE] Agreed. And furthermore, I would like to marry Magni’s version of that song. My ovaries ached just listening to it. Wonnndeerrrrfullll. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rockstar-supernova-12-sept-unboxed-spoilers/372536.md?page=1)