# Rod Rosenstein -- place your bets, quickly! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836 "2018-09-24T15:25:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/21 "2018-09-24T18:59:08Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > Nothing happening today. Trump meeting with Rosenstein Thursday. > > Same day as the Kavanaugh hearing. I’m sure that’s merely a coincidence. I mean, they wouldn’t try to use this as a distraction from Ford’s testimony or anything, right? ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/22 "2018-09-24T19:16:01Z")
“THE STRATEGY WAS TO TRY AND DO SOMETHING REALLY BIG”: TRUMP WANTED TO NUKE ROSENSTEIN TO SAVE KAVANAUGH’S BACON: [https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-wanted-to-nuke-rosenstein-to-save-kavanaughs-bacon](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-wanted-to-nuke-rosenstein-to-save-kavanaughs-bacon) ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/23 "2018-09-24T22:03:38Z")
Apparently when Rosenstein left the White House today, John Kelly walked him to his car and shook his hand. There’s some minor commentary on how weird that is, but no one seems to know what to make of it. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/24 "2018-09-26T10:15:56Z")
I think that Trump will leave him in, and then Rosenstein will recuse himself. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/25 "2018-09-26T11:34:41Z")
I think Trump is being advised again and again not to do anything that would tip the midterms against him and his party, but I could also see his firing being used as a way to distract from his Kavanaugh troubles. Rosenstein and Sessions are gone by December though. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/26 "2018-09-26T14:45:23Z")
My prediction is he will either be fired this thursday, or last through the midterms. I lean towards last through the mid-terms. Rosenstein apparently offered a verbal resignation and Trump would have been stupid not to take it if he really wanted to do that now. And he could have done it right then, not wait til Thursday. My guess is they’re convinced that Rosenstein said this sarcastically, and are still trying to figure out the optics of firing him or not. I think at this point they know firing Rosenstein and Sessions isn’t going to affect the Mueller investigation much or at all, and will do nothing but look bad. That said, I don’t think either of them is going to make it to 2020. They’ll be gone soonish. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/27 "2018-09-27T02:14:53Z")
Trump hinted today he might not meet with Rosenstein tomorrow. Because of the Kavanaugh hearing. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/28 "2018-09-27T04:22:04Z")
I’m betting that Rosenstein won’t resign. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/29 "2018-09-27T09:36:52Z")
He should wear a wire. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/30 "2018-09-27T12:11:38Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > He should wear a wire. 😃 I can totally see Trump patting him down, looking for a wire, or maybe having a couple of goons do it for him. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/31 "2018-09-27T12:16:20Z")
In any case, it is now clear that Democrats have to win both the house and senate or this country is finished. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/32 "2018-09-27T12:50:07Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > In any case, it is now clear that Democrats have to win both the house and senate or this country is finished. The country has survived a couple,of invasions, a civil war over the issue of slavery, periodic financial meltdowns, the Viet Nam conflict, Richard Nixon, and _The Hottie and the Nottie_. Rosenstein being fired wouldn’t be a great day, but it’s not going to end the country. And whiel the Democrats will probably retake the House with a healthy majority, they’re unlikely to retake the Senate in the midterm election, though their chances keep improving every time Trump tweets some new misogyny. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/33 "2018-09-27T13:25:39Z")
I’m not sure that we have actually survived the Civil War yet. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/34 "2018-09-27T13:32:26Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I’m not sure that we have actually survived the Civil War yet. While there are some people who don’t want to give up and accept that the CSA lost, they’re in a minority. We’re still living with the artifacts of slavery—some built directly into the Constitution and structure of the federal government—but it has been illegal to buy and sell human beings for over a century and a half. The Democrats winning the Senate won’t change history and suddenly make everything smell like roses and honey, and losing it won’t destroy the nation. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/35 "2018-09-27T16:36:25Z")
Donald cancelled their meeting today. FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/36 "2018-09-27T16:53:32Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Donald cancelled their meeting today. FWIW. John Kelly probably wasn’t available to protect Twumpy from having to actually to nut up and actually follow through on his threats. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/37 "2018-09-27T16:55:16Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Donald cancelled their meeting today. FWIW. Of course he did; he’s a coward. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/38 "2019-01-09T15:48:05Z")
Updating this thread: > [@](#): > > Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whose office manages the Russia investigation, is planning to leave the Justice Department shortly after William Barr, the President’s nominee for attorney general, is confirmed, a source familiar with his thinking said. > The source said Rosenstein is not being forced out, and he has conveyed his thinking to the White House. The move may be the clearest signal to date that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is close to wrapping up. [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/politics/rosenstein-out-justice-department/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/politics/rosenstein-out-justice-department/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/39 "2019-01-09T15:56:58Z")
To anybody in a position to do so who may be reading these words. Don’t count on trump to release the report, in whole or in part. Send a copy to the media. The American people paid for that report and have a right to see it. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836/40 "2019-01-09T16:01:07Z")
Now that Rosenstein has said he will resign soon, Trump will find it necessary to fire him even sooner, just to show who’s boss. It’s not like he’s going to be any nicer to Rosenstein than he was to Mattis. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rod-rosenstein-place-your-bets-quickly/821836.md?page=3)