# Roe v. Wade: Gone **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 24, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747 "2022-06-24T15:18:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/1 "2022-06-24T15:18:47Z")
The title says it all. The only surprise is that Roberts joined the majority 6-3 decision. The court is having quite a week. What comes next? Environmental laws out since the constitution says nothing about them? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/2 "2022-06-24T15:22:01Z")
I’d like to think there will be a mass exodus of women and progressive people out of red states leaving them devoid of tax bases and populated entirely by racists, rubes on unemployment, and retired elderly people, but that’s probably unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/3 "2022-06-24T15:26:21Z")
A federal ban on all abortions will be place within 5 years (maybe even 2). Gay marriage will be eliminated. Segregation will be allowed/enforced at the state level again. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/4 "2022-06-24T15:28:49Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I’d like to think there will be a mass exodus of women and progressive people out of red states leaving them devoid of tax bases and populated entirely by racists, rubes on unemployment, and retired elderly people, but that’s probably unlikely. That’s a good way to end up with red-state rule forever. Personally I hope that this will be enough to shock Dem voters into turning out to vote, so we can flip more red states blue. I was shocked to see it could be done in Georgia, and if can be done here, we can do it elsewhere. Their side won their goal and maybe they will get lazy. We have the bloody nose, hopefully that will energize us. ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/5 "2022-06-24T15:36:21Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > A federal ban on all abortions will be place within 5 years (maybe even 2). > > Gay marriage will be eliminated. > > Segregation will be allowed/enforced at the state level again. Obergefell is absolutely going to be next on the chopping block. Considering that the Texas GOP’s recently released party platform also calls for the permanent repeal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, we can tell where their head is at for future plans. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/6 "2022-06-24T16:09:04Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Personally I hope that this will be enough to shock Dem voters into turning out to vote, so we can flip more red states blue. I was shocked to see it could be done in Georgia, and if can be done here, we can do it elsewhere. Agree. It’s a fact there are more Democratic voters in the country than Republican. The key is to get those votes to count by getting more Democrats to vote in key states and key areas of the country - there needs to be a massive effort buoyed by today’s decision to get Democrats to the polls. We have the numbers, now we need to convert that into votes. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/7 "2022-06-24T16:11:23Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > A federal ban on all abortions will be place within 5 years (maybe even 2). > > Gay marriage will be eliminated. > > Segregation will be allowed/enforced at the state level again. I don’t think the Republicans can get the Senate votes for a federal ban in 2022, but they can in 2024. Gay marriage is next on the chopping block, of course. Racial segregation, however, isn’t after that. Religious discrimination is where Republicans want to go. Religious bigots are in control and they’re obsessed with Christian supremacy. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/8 "2022-06-24T16:53:56Z")
Women have officially been relegated to second-class citizens that have no control over their own bodies. This proves that the US is a genuinely conservative Christian country, regardless of what the constitution says. If you don’t happen to be a conservative Christian, you’re out of luck, and I suggest you keep a low profile. You may be next. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/9 "2022-06-24T16:56:12Z")
Progressive women with money can already leave to get an abortion without tearing up their families. The ruling affects poor women who can’t easily leave. And most places already have residency rules about people moving to states and immediately getting benefits. What you really want is tons of blue women moving into those states and changing their legislators. Sending a couple of million families from New York and California wouldn’t hurt those states but could make a huge difference in Oklahoma and Wisconsin. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/10 "2022-06-24T16:58:14Z")
Suicides and murders of young women increase in 3…2…1… ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/11 "2022-06-24T17:02:42Z")
I guess states can now finally outlaw back-alley abortions! ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/12 "2022-06-24T18:27:51Z")
Well, isn’t a big part of the Republicans’ strategy to make sure that votes are only counted when there are more Republican votes, and declare fraud and invalidate results when there are not? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/13 "2022-06-24T18:35:23Z")
Yes, the whole voter subversion strategy. That’s why it’s important to get Democratic voters to the polls to vote in overwhelming numbers that leave no doubt, as was done in 2020. Especially in areas where it could be close. The Republicans are counting on close elections where slight-of-hand can be employed to tip the scales in their favor. If the margin is too great it’s going to be harder to cheat. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/14 "2022-06-24T18:37:56Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Environmental laws out since the constitution says nothing about them? I don’t think so. The _Dobbs_ decision today throws doubt on the use of the due process clause to protect various individual rights, but as far as I know the body of law regarding environmental regulation rests on the commerce clause. So they are separate. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/15 "2022-06-24T18:43:07Z")
5-4, roberts was the 4th vote dissenting. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/16 "2022-06-24T18:46:33Z")
Moderating: We have an ongoing and open thread for political discussion about this issue in the P&E Forum: > [@Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade (No longer a draft as of 06-24-2022.)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft/963862): > > I believe this is without precedent, for a draft opinion to release before publication, and until publication it is not the official opinion of the court. However, that being said, reliable journalism is circulating the draft copy of Alito’s opinion (link below to the Politico article that broke it), Alito’s opinion holds that Roe and Casey were bad law all along, and decided under “incredibly weak” justification. [Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows - POLITI…](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473) This discussion belongs there, but it will be too confusing for us to merge the posts into that thread. Accordingly, after discussion with other mods, we are closing this thread and direct further comment to the other thread. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roe-v-wade-gone/966747/17 "2022-06-24T18:46:44Z")