# Roger Ailes of Fox News goes full Godwin about NPR **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118 "2010-11-18T18:09:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/1 "2010-11-18T18:09:12Z")
So Fox News’s boss Roger Ailes gave an [interview](http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-17/fox-news-chief-roger-ailes-blasts-national-public-radio-brass-as-nazis/?cid=hp:mainpromo1) to Howard Kurtz of the _Daily Beast_, which is weird enough in and of itself. And he called Jon Stewart “crazy” in the interview, which is really par for the course these days in no-holds-barred political mudslinging these days. But then the conversation turns to National Public Radio and Ailes gets a little, shall we say, riled up. > [@](#): > > “They are, of course, Nazis. They have a kind of Nazi attitude. They are the left wing of Nazism. These guys don’t want any other point of view. They don’t even feel guilty using tax dollars to spout their propaganda. They are basically Air America with government funding to keep them alive.” So not just Nazis, but _left-wing_ Nazis. Because _just_ calling somebody Hitler, Nazi, etc. isn’t enough these days, you’ve got to throw in a qualifier like that. Of course, we are soon going to hear a whole bunch of apologists saying that the right-wing media would never stoop so low as to use Nazi imagery against their opponents. Between this and Glenn Beck’s recent attack on George Soros as a Holocaust enabler…hmmm. One wouldn’t think Fox News could go more off the deep end, but I guess the moral of this RO post is: never underestimate the noise machine. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/2 "2010-11-18T18:13:33Z")
Sure, maybe he got a little worked up, but I think it’s nice that Roger Ailes is so committed to unbiased journalism which doesn’t favor any particular ideology or viewpoint. Good for him! ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/3 "2010-11-18T18:13:59Z")
> [@](#): > > These guys don’t want any other point of view. That’s a pretty rich thing to say on Fox. The irony, it burns! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/4 "2010-11-18T18:23:38Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > So not just Nazis, but _left-wing_ Nazis. They get government funding, so not just _left-wing_ Nazis, but left-wing _communist_ Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/5 "2010-11-18T18:25:24Z")
Can it be “Full Godwin” without actually using the H-word? Maybe Half or Three-Quarters Godwin…? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/6 "2010-11-18T18:27:36Z")
Little-known secret: they junked the name National Public Radio for just NPR because of their new official name, _Nationaler Propaganda-Rundfunk._ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/7 "2010-11-18T18:29:17Z")
He should take Nazi lessons from NPR. He could have both sides represented in political discussions. That kind of Nazism would be beneficial to Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/8 "2010-11-18T18:37:19Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > He should take Nazi lessons from NPR. He could have both sides represented in political discussions. That kind of Nazism would be beneficial to Fox. True fact: I am now less than 30 feet from a person who, in all seriousness, claims that, while both NPR and Fox are biased, at least Fox allows both sides to be heard (unlike NPR.) After all they are “fair and balanced”. No joke. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/9 "2010-11-18T18:42:37Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > They get government funding, so not just _left-wing_ Nazis, but left-wing _communist_ Nazis. Not only that, they really like to throw parties - left-wing, communist, _socialist_ Nazis! ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/10 "2010-11-18T18:51:26Z")
The Nazis \*were \*left-wing, when you reallly look at their economic policies, even if self-styled neo-Nazis don’t like to think of themselves that way. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/11 "2010-11-18T19:03:23Z")
Ailes is correct. I was there when NPR invaded Poland. ---
**Author:** ![Kelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@Kelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/12 "2010-11-18T19:11:09Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > True fact: I am now less than 30 feet from a person who, in all seriousness, claims that, while both NPR and Fox are biased, at least Fox allows both sides to be heard (unlike NPR.) After all they are “fair and balanced”. No joke. Fox News: We distort, you decide. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/13 "2010-11-18T19:26:31Z")
> [@Wallenstein](#): > > The Nazis \*were \*left-wing, when you reallly look at their economic policies, even if self-styled neo-Nazis don’t like to think of themselves that way. No they weren’t. People base this on the early economic program, which was never put into effect - never even tried in fact. The Nazis were a party that left capital to do its own thang, by and large. And Fox News describing NPR as left-wing Nazis is oddly enough progress. Usually they preach the utter bollocks that the Nazis were left-wing themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/14 "2010-11-18T19:32:57Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > The irony, it burns! Just like the Reichstag. Isn’t it curious ? Isn’t it a concerning little coinkidink ? And is it a wonder I’m the only one asking these questions, as a concerned not-American-at-all ? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/15 "2010-11-18T19:33:37Z")
Just playing along with what Mr. Ailes must have meant as a joke, here, but which bits of NPR’s prgramming are ‘propaganda’, exactly? _Car Talk_? _This American Life_? _A Prairie Home Companion_? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/16 "2010-11-18T19:36:34Z")
Make your pledge before the hour is over, and receive your NPR totenkpf tote! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/17 "2010-11-18T19:52:43Z")
If I had the photoshop chops, I’d do up Big Bird as an SS. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/18 "2010-11-18T19:57:42Z")
NPR Uber Ailes! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/19 "2010-11-18T19:58:46Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > True fact: I am now less than 30 feet from a person who, in all seriousness, claims that, while both NPR and Fox are biased, at least Fox allows both sides to be heard (unlike NPR.) Not quite “point-blank range” in its common definition, but surely within the limits of your marksmanship? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118/20 "2010-11-18T20:41:03Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > True fact: I am now less than 30 feet from a person who, in all seriousness, claims that, while both NPR and Fox are biased, at least Fox allows both sides to be heard (unlike NPR.) After all they are “fair and balanced”. No joke. Would that be the far right wing and the extreme right wing sides? I can see that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-ailes-of-fox-news-goes-full-godwin-about-npr/561118.md?page=2)