# Roger Moore dead at 89 years of age **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** celebrity-death\ **Created:** [May 23, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275 "2017-05-23T13:51:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/41 "2017-05-23T21:20:02Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Didn’t he eventually think that Timothy Dalton pegged it when _The Living Daylights_ came out? Thought I remember reading that somewhere. > > I think Connery, at least in the first two or three movies, captured the ‘blunt instrument’ nature of Bond better than anyone up to Craig. True, some of us really get into “killer Bond”. But Moore could sell the “witty quip after watching someone get killed” schtick just as well as Connery, if given decent scriptwriting, that is a key trope of Movie Bond and I am fond of it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/42 "2017-05-23T21:20:57Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Didn’t he eventually think that Timothy Dalton pegged it when _The Living Daylights_ came out? Thought I remember reading that somewhere. I guess you don’t remember reading that Ian Fleming died in the 1960s. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/43 "2017-05-23T21:57:40Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I loved him in _ffolkes_. Yes! Moore was terrific as a grouchy, misogynistic weirdo. He was also great in _Gold_ (1974), a film that a lot of Bond alumni were involved in (it even has a Maurice Binder title sequence). That film is now in the public domain, so it is readily available in a variety of crappy DVD editions. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/44 "2017-05-23T22:36:41Z")
I no longer hold this view, but I think it is worthwhile to read my old thread: [Octopussy is the best Bond movie.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=173797) My favorite Bond after Craig. He’ll be missed. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/45 "2017-05-23T22:40:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I loved him in _ffolkes_. > [@erysichthon](#): > > Yes! Moore was terrific as a grouchy, misogynistic weirdo. Moore’s role in _ffolkes_, and Brosnan’s role in _The Taylor of Panama_, are roles I like to think of as the Anti-Bonds. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/46 "2017-05-23T22:53:10Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I loved him in _ffolkes_. I’m so glad I’m not the only person who seems to remember that film!!! I liked him as Bond, but fflokes is actually my favorite Moore movie. I loved the way the government figured out how to give his character a reward/thank you gift, that he wouldn’t refuse. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/47 "2017-05-24T03:25:14Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Yes, if you don’t count David Niven (as you don’t) from _Casino Royale_. But of course! Even Fleming preferred Niven to his own damn self. Who wouldn’t? > [@Gatopescado](#): > > Good time to pull the Volvo out for a spin. Sir Roger owned a string of P1800s. They are touring cars, built to carry one, a plus-one, luggage, and skis to where a gent might want to go. Not flashy like the DB, an improbable Lotus, or a sin to all that is England, like a _sniff_ Rambler. He knew his position in society, and maintained it. > [@Art\_Rock](#): > > Ivanhoe was one of the first TV series I watched as a young child. After each episode, I would take my toy sword and run through the streets singing IVANHOE! IVANHOE! I tried, God knows I tried, to watch The Saint, but the very flower of British femininity had me changing the channel to Petticoat Junction. Round these parts it’s called hybrid vigor. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/48 "2017-05-24T12:39:18Z")
I liked Moore’s Bond movies better than the later, ultra-serious Bond Saving The World films. As for “The Saint”, too bad we didn’t get to see [Vinny](http://www.saint.org/actor-vincent-price.htm) play him on TV. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/49 "2017-05-24T17:32:06Z")
I’m trying to remember the name of a Roger Moore film I saw. It would have been made in the eighties, and featured him as an upper class secret agent or commando type who had to recover a hijacked oil rig. It was basically a Bond movie with the serial number filed off. He had a sidekick “guy” who was really a girl in disguise, for reasons I don’t remember. [Del]Bond/[del] the protagonist found out about the girl when they shared a shower at the end. Anyone know which film I’m remembering? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Gordon\_Urquhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gordon\_Urquhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gordon_Urquhart)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/50 "2017-05-24T17:41:05Z")
> [@TwoCarrotSnowman](#): > > I’m trying to remember the name of a Roger Moore film I saw. It would have been made in the eighties, and featured him as an upper class secret agent or commando type who had to recover a hijacked oil rig. It was basically a Bond movie with the serial number filed off. > > He had a sidekick “guy” who was really a girl in disguise, for reasons I don’t remember. [Del]Bond/[del] the protagonist found out about the girl when they shared a shower at the end. > > Anyone know which film I’m remembering? > > Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk This is \*ffolkes \*(1980), which has been referenced quite a bit in this thread. Moore’s Bond was the first I saw in theaters and on HBO, and he’ll always be a sentimental favorite. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/51 "2017-05-24T18:02:08Z")
> [@Gordon\_Urquhart](#): > > This is \*ffolkes \*(1980), which has been referenced quite a bit in this thread. > > Moore’s Bond was the first I saw in theaters and on HBO, and he’ll always be a sentimental favorite. Ah, thank you. I saw those references, but didn’t connect the name. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Gordon\_Urquhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gordon\_Urquhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gordon_Urquhart)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/52 "2017-05-24T18:08:54Z")
> [@TwoCarrotSnowman](#): > > Ah, thank you. I saw those references, but didn’t connect the name. > > Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk It was known as _North Sea Hijack_ in the United Kingdom, but released as \*ffolkes \*in most of the rest of the world. The UK title is a bit more descriptive. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/53 "2017-05-24T18:16:24Z")
> [@Gordon\_Urquhart](#): > > It was known as _North Sea Hijack_ in the United Kingdom, but released as \*ffolkes \*in most of the rest of the world. The UK title is a bit more descriptive. 🙂 That might explain it, then! For some reason, _ffolkes_ made me think of a comedy. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/54 "2017-05-24T18:55:30Z")
Moore always reminded me of a fox; a fox is everything you want in a spy…sneaky, clever, charming, and when the time comes, an efficient killer. and damn sexy:rolleyes: [![](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3c/14/54/3c1454bc4bf618c91d527315c5ec02d3.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3c/14/54/3c1454bc4bf618c91d527315c5ec02d3.jpg) So long, Roger…give Ian a toast from us all. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/55 "2017-05-24T19:12:47Z")
> [@TwoCarrotSnowman](#): > > That might explain it, then! > > For some reason, _ffolkes_ made me think of a comedy. If you omit those wacky British two small ffs, you do [get a comedy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folks!). Rufus ffolkes seems like Bond crossed with Jonny Lee Miller’s Sherlock - brilliant, skilled, clever, with extreme arrogance, and doesn’t seem to understand this whole “human interaction” thing. But he was the right man for the job. Wonder how they ever got those booby-trapped explosives off the drilling rig. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/56 "2017-05-24T20:24:04Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > If you omit those wacky British two small ffs, you do [get a comedy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folks!). > > . The **ff** is Welsh, and so, presumably, is the character: > **[Welsh language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language)** > > Welsh (Cymraeg \[kəmˈraːiɡ\] ⓘ or y Gymraeg \[ə ɡəmˈraːiɡ\]) is a Celtic language of the Brittonic subgroup that is native to the Welsh people. Welsh is spoken natively in Wales, by some in England, and in Y Wladfa (the Welsh colony in Chubut Province, Argentina). > It is spoken by smaller numbers of people in Canada and the United States descended from Welsh immigrants, within their households (especially in Nova Scotia). Historically, it has also been known in English as "British", "Cambrian", "C... > **[Welsh orthography](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_orthography)** > > Welsh orthography uses 29 letters (including eight digraphs) of the Latin script to write native Welsh words as well as established loanwords. > Welsh orthography makes use of multiple diacritics, which are primarily used on vowels, namely the acute accent (acen ddyrchafedig), the grave accent (acen ddisgynedig), the circumflex (acen grom, to bach, or hirnod) and the diaeresis (didolnod). They are considered variants of their base letter, i.e. they are not alphabetised separately. > The letter ⟨j... > **[A guide to Welsh Language Pronunciation](https://www.go4awalk.com/fell-facts/welsh-language-pronunciation.php)** > > A guide to Welsh Language Pronunciation ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/57 "2017-05-24T20:26:43Z")
Actually, the “ff” is used in some English forms, as well, I see: > **[ffolkes baronets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ffolkes_baronets)** > > The ffolkes Baronetcy, of Hillington in the County of Norfolk, is a title in the Baronetage of Great Britain. It was created on 26 May 1774 for Martin ffolkes, FRS later High Sheriff of Norfolk and Member of Parliament for King's Lynn. The second Baronet represented Norfolk and Norfolk West in the House of Commons while the third Baronet represented King's Lynn. The fifth Baronet was Honorary Chaplain to Queen Victoria, Chaplain-in-Ordinary to Edward VII and George V and Chaplain to Edward VIII... ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/58 "2017-05-27T05:45:25Z")
RIP, Roger. ☹ I’m just glad that rumor turned out to be false, that he was the suicide bomber in Manchester. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/59 "2017-05-27T09:24:51Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I’m just glad that rumor turned out to be false, that he was the suicide bomber in Manchester. All together now: _ **That’s not funny, that’s sick!** _ :eek: :dubious: :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275/60 "2017-05-28T00:56:59Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Nice story about Disco Bond from Facebook, no copyright: Great story, thanks for sharing! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-moore-dead-at-89-years-of-age/787275.md?page=2)