# ROGER MORNEAU AND SATAN'S COUNCIL OF THE 1700's **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 18, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099 "2012-10-18T04:54:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/21 "2012-10-18T16:14:19Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Ok, ok. But other than increased technological efficiency, secular humanism, a method of communication with the subconsciousness and a more complete understanding of our genetic origins, what has The Prince of Darkness ever given us? > > Uh, a solid foundation for curing disease, injury and increasing the human lifespan. That evil fiend! Oh, the humanity! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/22 "2012-10-18T16:18:19Z")
At least Satan has a council. It’s reassuring to know he’s getting good advice from his colleagues. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/23 "2012-10-18T17:52:01Z")
Word of advice if you’re ever at one of those Great General Council meetings - you do not want to be the guy that took the last donut. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/24 "2012-10-18T17:54:46Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Ok, ok. But other than increased technological efficiency, secular humanism, a method of communication with the subconsciousness and a more complete understanding of our genetic origins, what has The Prince of Darkness ever given us? > > Uh, a solid foundation for curing disease, injury and increasing the human lifespan. > > Ok, ok. So other than… You forgot the idolatry. Satan is apparently responsible for giving us People magazine and the E! network. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/25 "2012-10-18T18:08:06Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You will not find a single person on this MB who is going to say they agree with Morneau. \*\*Simple \*\*is right: you are really tempting fate with this. [This](http://myshasta.info/tempest/seventhunders/nogod/nogod1.htm)appears to be one text that the OP is referencing (along with the youtube link above–thanks for this also, **Simple** ). I’m wary of snap judgments, but my answer to the OP is that Morneau is utterly nuts, with less foundation to his ideas than most nuts. He might be a little more cogent than the Time Cube guy, but that’s about the best I can say. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/26 "2012-10-18T18:25:40Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You will not find a single person on this MB who is going to say they agree with Morneau. Did you not read the OP? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/27 "2012-10-18T18:53:17Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Did you not read the OP? 😛 We do not know whether our new friend \*\*chagqq \*\*is a single person or a married person. ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/28 "2012-10-18T20:33:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Word of advice if you’re ever at one of those Great General Council meetings - you do not want to be the guy that took the last donut. **Little Nemo** , [you’ve inspired me.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15605156#post15605156) ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/29 "2012-10-18T20:41:49Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > But I think his women were the sexiest . . . You sure you’re not thinking of [Jeanne Moreau](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0603402/)? ---
**Author:** ![Blakeyrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blakeyrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blakeyrat)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/30 "2012-10-18T21:10:11Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Satan held a Great General Council in the 1700’s in which he set up his plans to destroy the world. Among the items in this plan were causing the industrial revolution, destroying belief in the Bible by introducing the theory of evolution and modern medicine, corrupting Christianity by introducing idolatry, and using hypnotism to convince people that Satan wasn’t real. If Satan basically gave us the foundations of this beautiful modern world, we should throw a ticker-tape parade. He’s saved billions of lives. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/31 "2012-10-18T21:54:12Z")
Gosh yes, modern medicine is so obviously evil! ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/32 "2012-10-18T22:56:19Z")
And no second post from the OP. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/33 "2012-10-19T14:28:39Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Gosh yes, modern medicine is so obviously evil! Thank you. I am of course board-certified in Evil. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/34 "2012-10-20T01:03:33Z")
An actual devil doing creepy things and manipulating historical figures, it sounds like a good spooky story. I’d certainly rather read about that then the Da Vinci Code. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/35 "2012-10-20T03:08:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > using hypnotism to convince people that Satan wasn’t real. Yeah, that was pretty much his top shtick. But you should really get there early; his card tricks are pretty good and he does this mean chainsaw-juggling disparaging act. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/36 "2012-10-20T04:56:23Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Morneau told people about his supposed experiences in the cult and their goals. According to Morneau, the cult was being run by Satan. Satan held a Great General Council in the 1700’s in which he set up his plans to destroy the world. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/37 "2012-10-20T08:31:10Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Thank you. > > I am of course board-certified in Evil. And you didn’t spend four years in Evil Medical School to be called Mister. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/38 "2012-10-20T14:30:25Z")
Never heard of him till this thread. From what I have learned since, here is my response- Was Roger Morneau really in a Satanic cult? Perhaps, perhaps not. If he was, maybe the leaders did concoct this story. Did Satan really convene a council in the 1700’s to come up with this plot? Very doubtful. Has the theory of evolution & scientific development been a reason people give for why they turn away from God? Yep. Does that mean they come from Satan? Not necessarily. People will use any reason, good or bad, if they want to turn from God. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/39 "2012-10-20T21:59:56Z")
Like many others, this religious anti-evolution myth assumes that Darwin is the sole source of evolutionary theory (or the inventor of it), and there’s nothing else that supports it. In reality, of course there’s basically a planet full of evidence. So Satan would have to have the power to plant misleading evidence, in multiple lines of inquiry, including altering our very genetic code. So if he had this power to achieve that, couldn’t he just destroy the world directly? Instead of planting fossils, he could plant poison, for example. When altering our DNA to trick us into believing evolution, why not introduce sterility? Or insanity? And seriously, he’s going to hold a council about it? Who’s approval did he need? Dick Cheney? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099/40 "2012-10-21T06:05:57Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > And seriously, he’s going to hold a council about it? It was a “motivational” meeting. Darwin ended up getting the Cadillac El Dorado. Wallace got the set of steak knives. Everyone else was fired. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-morneau-and-satans-council-of-the-1700s/638099.md?page=3)