# Roger Stone arrested in early morning FBI raid! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 25, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387 "2019-01-25T12:45:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/41 "2019-01-26T00:50:18Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > A football player who’s not real good at Spanishing. His number was 85. LOL - not good at Spanishing! ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/42 "2019-01-26T01:27:00Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Maybe the FBI agents are just in a bad mood because they’re not getting paid and decided to start early to fuck with Trump’s friend. I dunno, seems to me the FBI guys arrested Stone for free. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/43 "2019-01-26T01:33:34Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I still don’t believe that he let his passport expire. No adult does that, especially someone who does travel. He’s not some 21 year old that backpacked around Europe once before he got an adult job. It’s trivially easy to check. I doubt that he lied about that. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/44 "2019-01-26T01:36:59Z")
I guess the documentary “Get Me Roger Stone” takes on a whole new meaning now, eh? ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/45 "2019-01-26T02:46:28Z")
[Nixon Foundation Distances the Ex-President From Roger Stone](https://www.thedailybeast.com/nixon-foundation-distances-the-dead-president-from-roger-stone?ref=home). Quote from the article, quoting the Nixon Foundation’s Twitter feed: > [@](#): > > “This morning’s widely-circulated characterization of Roger Stone as a Nixon campaign aide or adviser is a gross misstatement,” the foundation wrote in a tweet. “Mr. Stone was 16 years old during the Nixon presidential campaign of 1968 and 20 years old during the reelection campaign of 1972… Mr. Stone, during his time as a student at George Washington University, was a junior scheduler on the Nixon reelection committee. Mr. Stone was not a campaign aide or adviser.” “Hey, we may be the foundation about a crook and a liar, but _fuck_ this guy!” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/46 "2019-01-26T03:39:37Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > [Nixon Foundation Distances the Ex-President From Roger Stone](https://www.thedailybeast.com/nixon-foundation-distances-the-dead-president-from-roger-stone?ref=home). > Quote from the article, quoting the Nixon Foundation’s Twitter feed: > > “Hey, we may be the foundation about a crook and a liar, but _fuck_ this guy!” That is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/47 "2019-01-26T23:39:58Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > This is not in any way meant to defend irredeemable ratfucker Roger Stone, but why the early morning raid? Don’t they usually let people like Stone negotiate a time to turn themselves in? I wonder if they had reason to believe he was about to flee. Perhaps they didn’t want to give him a chance to apply for a stay of execution on the arrest warrant. Which leads to the question of why they even bother to arrest him? Why not proceed by summons? Answer that question, and you’ve got a reason why they didn’t want him to apply for a stay of execution. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/48 "2019-01-27T16:37:37Z")
Mueller is milking this case like a true government employee. He’ll go on for years with this. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/49 "2019-01-27T16:54:54Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Mueller is milking this case like a true government employee. He’ll go on for years with this. Get back to us when Mueller has spent half the time Ken Starr did. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/50 "2019-01-27T17:17:58Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Mueller is milking this … And every time he squeezes he gets a guilty plea. Milk away, Mr. Mueller; drain that swamp! ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/51 "2019-01-27T17:29:50Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > And every time he squeezes he gets a guilty plea. Milk away, Mr. Mueller; drain that swamp! The swamp? Oh Ft. Lauderdale. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/52 "2019-01-27T17:34:00Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Get back to us when Mueller has spent half the time Ken Starr did. Why is that relevant? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/53 "2019-01-27T17:53:44Z")
Unlike all the other Trump criminals Mueller has charged, Stone vows to fight. I wondered how much sense Stone had, until I learned that he had a tattoo of Richard Nixon’s face on his back. So now I know how much sense he has. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/54 "2019-01-27T17:56:44Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Why is that relevant? Ken Starr spent seven years searching and all he got was a lousy blowjob. Mueller has spent two and has indictments. _Multiple_ indictments. This is something called actual results. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/55 "2019-01-27T18:00:04Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Mueller is milking this case like a true government employee. He’ll go on for years with this. Can you describe in what way(s) you think Mr. Mueller is “milking this”? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/56 "2019-01-27T18:18:04Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The swamp? Oh Ft. Lauderdale. I bet myself that there would be an example of Trump’s swamp style of business in Ft. Lauderdale, and sure enough: > **[Is Fraud Part of the Trump Organization’s Business Model?](https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp-chronicles/is-fraud-part-of-the-trump-organizations-business-model)** > > A joint investigation by ProPublica and WNYC shows that many of the Trump Organization’s international deals bear the hallmarks of financial fraud, including money laundering, deceptive borrowing, lying to investors, and other potential crimes. > [@](#): > > The same pattern emerged in other projects. In Fort Lauderdale, Trump announced that a hotel-condominium project was “pretty much sold out” in April, 2006, according to a broker who attended the presentation. In reality, sixty-two per cent of units were sold as of July, 2006, according to bank records that emerged in a court case. The project entered foreclosure, and Trump’s name was removed before construction was completed. > [@](#): > > Many people lose in these schemes. Often a bank loses money that it has lent, or, alternatively, individual investors who bought bonds to support the project lose their money. The people who put a down payment on units often lose their down payments. When the whole thing collapsed, the Trumps, in many cases, stopped claiming—as they had during the rising period—that they were co-owners and developers of the project and began to state they were mere licensees who had no active involvement in the business. This is often untrue, as lawsuits have revealed that the Trumps were intimately involved with every aspect of construction and sales. As for the swamp we do have now in the current administration, Trump himself said who are the guys he gets close to: > **[How Mark Burnett Resurrected Donald Trump as an Icon of American Success](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/07/how-mark-burnett-resurrected-donald-trump-as-an-icon-of-american-success)** > > With “The Apprentice,” the TV producer mythologized Trump—then a floundering D-lister—as the ultimate titan, paving his way to the Presidency. > [@](#): > > During a 2004 panel at the Museum of Television and Radio, in Los Angeles, Trump claimed that “every network” had tried to get him to do a reality show, but he wasn’t interested: “I don’t want to have cameras all over my office, dealing with contractors, politicians, **mobsters, and everyone else I have to deal with in my business. You know, mobsters don’t like, as they’re talking to me, having cameras all over the room**. It would play well on television, but it doesn’t play well with them.” ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/57 "2019-01-27T20:06:58Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It depends on what his plans are. He may want that evidence as something to offer up if he’s planning on trying to make a deal to save himself. That’s the only explanation I can think of. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/58 "2019-01-27T20:26:53Z")
The Nixon Foundation distances itself from Roger Stone > **[Nixon Foundation distances itself from Roger Stone after Mueller indictment |...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/nixon-foundation-distances-stone/index.html)** > > On the day of his indictment by special counsel Robert Mueller, former Donald Trump adviser Roger Stone seems to have lost the support of one of his greatest heroes, former President Richard Nixon -- or at least Nixon's foundation. Individual 1 distances himself from Roger Stone. > **[Trump says Roger Stone 'never even worked for me near the election'](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636641/Trump-says-indicted-Roger-Stone-never-worked-near-election.html)** > > Trump and Stone, pictured together, have been friends for years with the latter 'remaining in close contact with Trump's team during the presidential campaign'. The president took to Twitter, inset. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/59 "2019-01-27T21:35:25Z")
Stolen from Tumblr: Roger Stone’s lawyer says his client was arrested “like he was a black man.” That’s ridiculous. Roger Stones is still alive. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/60 "2019-01-27T22:52:57Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Nixon Foundation distances itself from Roger Stone > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/nixon-foundation-distances-stone/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/nixon-foundation-distances-stone/index.html) > > Individual 1 distances himself from Roger Stone. > [Trump says indicted Roger Stone 'never even worked for me near the election' | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636641/Trump-says-indicted-Roger-Stone-never-worked-near-election.html) All those buses could be better used for public transit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387.md?page=4)