# Roger Stone arrested in early morning FBI raid! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 25, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387 "2019-01-25T12:45:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/121 "2019-02-01T15:53:18Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > They sent more men and arms to arrest Stone than they sent to Benghazhi. Think about that one for a moment. You might be amazed to learn that it’s easier to put agents around a Florida house than it is to instantaneously move troops from Italy to Libya and put down a sudden insurrection. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/122 "2019-02-01T16:04:18Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Baffled as to why you think that is a relevant statistic. If Trump is trying to increase the money that NATO receives, isn’t it knowing which groups are already contributing the most? It would be hugely embarrassing to demand that the groups that are already paying the most should pay more, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/123 "2019-02-01T16:12:32Z")
Russias military spending is about 70 billion. China a bit below 150 billion. UK spends 55, France and Germany 45 each. (Forbes 2017) Total NATO military spending in 2017 according to SIPRI: 900 billion. About 52 % of the entire worlds spending. How much is enough? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/124 "2019-02-01T16:24:01Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > You expect Donald Trump to adopt the rhetorical demeanor of Barack Obama. Less nouveau riche with a Jet Ski and leopard print furniture, more dad jeans and smart cardigans. I expect the President not to adopt the rhetorical demeanor of a toddler throwing a temper tantrum in a toystore. Perhaps you consider this an unreasonable expectation. > [@](#): > > It is less important that they are eye-to-eye on key policy. And yet you raised this very thing as some sort of ‘gotcha’ above. > [@](#): > > This is why they coined the term Trump Derangement Syndrome. Someone is certainly deranged about Trump. Me, I’m rather sanguine about the progress of the investigation, which is producing enough somethingberders to feed an army of Wimpys. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/125 "2019-02-01T19:13:41Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > They sent more men and arms to arrest Stone than they sent to Benghazhi. Think about that one for a moment. They sent more men and weed whackers to mow my lawn than they sent to land on the moon. Think about that for as long as you possibly can. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/126 "2019-02-01T19:37:31Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > They sent more men and weed whackers to mow my lawn than they sent to land on the moon. Think about that for as long as you possibly can. They’ve sent more men into space then they’ve sent to investigate a criminally corrupt President. Think about that. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/127 "2019-02-01T20:31:15Z")
I demand to know why no FBI agents were sent to arrest Benghazi! ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/128 "2019-02-01T20:34:35Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I demand to know why no FBI agents were sent to arrest Benghazi! They were too busy reading emails. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Erudite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Ancient\_Erudite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Erudite)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/129 "2019-02-01T20:36:54Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > You might be amazed to learn that it’s easier to put agents around a Florida house than it is to instantaneously move troops from Italy to Libya and put down a sudden insurrection. How long would it take? A day at most if Obama and Clinton wanted to act? I think so, my friend. The ambassador requested help. None came. Just saying its a stark contrast. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/130 "2019-02-01T20:39:03Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > How long would it take? A day at most if Obama and Clinton wanted to act? I think so, my friend. > > The ambassador requested help. None came. Just saying its a stark contrast. OMG, someone should hold some congressional hearings on this. HastagShocking! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/131 "2019-02-01T20:39:30Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > How long would it take? A day at most if Obama and Clinton wanted to act? I think so, my friend. > > The ambassador requested help. None came. Just saying its a stark contrast. Do we really need to rehash Benghazi? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/132 "2019-02-01T20:42:20Z")
Whoa, Benghazi! (Bam-ba-Lam) Whoa, Benghazi (Bam-ba-Lam) Benghazi was kinda mild (Bam-ba-Lam) Then, damned thing gone wild (Bam-ba-Lam) Righties say "‘Stand down’s’ on her mind, (Bam-ba-Lam) “The White House gone blind” (Bam-ba-Lam) Whoa, Benghazi! (Bam-ba-Lam) Whoa, Benghazi! (Bam-ba-Lam) "Hillary left 'em high (Bam-ba-Lam) You know that’s no lie (Bam-ba-Lam) She’s so dead steady (Bam-ba-Lam) And she’s always ready (Bam-ba-Lam) Whoa, Benghazi (Bam-ba-Lam) Whoa, Benghazi (Bam-ba-Lam) "Congress gotta look (Bam-ba-Lam) 11 times, all it took! (Bam-ba-Lam) Look at her, She’s so dead steady (Bam-ba-Lam) 'N she’s always ready (Bam-ba-Lam) No indictments on Benghazi (Bam-ba-Lam) Maybe next time, for Benghazi! (Bam-ba-Lam) ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/133 "2019-02-01T20:51:43Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > They sent more men and arms to arrest Stone than they sent to Benghazhi. Think about that one for a moment. Oh god, that’s hilarious. Why would the FBI send anybody to Benghazi? ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/134 "2019-02-01T20:52:59Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Whoa, Benghazi! (Bam-ba-Lam) > Whoa, Benghazi (Bam-ba-Lam) > Benghazi was kinda mild (Bam-ba-Lam) > Then, damned thing gone wild (Bam-ba-Lam) > Righties say "‘Stand down’s’ on her mind, (Bam-ba-Lam) > “The White House gone blind” (Bam-ba-Lam) > Whoa, Benghazi! (Bam-ba-Lam) > Whoa, Benghazi! (Bam-ba-Lam) > > "Hillary left 'em high (Bam-ba-Lam) > You know that’s no lie (Bam-ba-Lam) > She’s so dead steady (Bam-ba-Lam) > And she’s always ready (Bam-ba-Lam) > Whoa, Benghazi (Bam-ba-Lam) > Whoa, Benghazi (Bam-ba-Lam) > > "Congress gotta look (Bam-ba-Lam) > 11 times, all it took! (Bam-ba-Lam) > Look at her, She’s so dead steady (Bam-ba-Lam) > 'N she’s always ready (Bam-ba-Lam) > No indictments on Benghazi (Bam-ba-Lam) > Maybe next time, for Benghazi! (Bam-ba-Lam) _clap_ ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/135 "2019-02-01T20:53:26Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Why would the FBI send anybody to Benghazi? To keep them occupied so they don’t investigate the president…I mean, there might still be clues! ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/136 "2019-02-01T22:01:36Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Trump is trying to increase NATO military spending, thereby strengthening it. Trump has no interest in strengthening NATO. His talk about having other nations increase their contributions has to do with his personality disorder of being paranoid that other countries are freeloaders; whereas he sees himself and the U.S. as the ones everyone else should suck up to. He doesn’t care about NATO, he cares about money. It’s like saying that someone who hoards sugar packets from restaurants is really looking out for the nation’s obesity rate: no, their purpose of taking the sugar packets is their own derangement, as opposed to trying to make other eat healthier. ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/137 "2019-02-01T23:07:44Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Shit, Obama basically got on one knee to get Europe to go along with Russia sanctions. They have more interest in trading with Russia than going to war, which aligns with Putin’s desires as well. Everyone has more interest in trade than war; its called being a developed nation. And the consequence of that is that Europe has more interest in discouraging Russias land grabs than in trade with just Russia. Nations with a history of war or conquest on their territories in living memory realize that war is destructive to prosperity. I remember a fellow at a different forum. He claimed to work in an embassy and that Europe would stop the sanction “any moment now” and that his friends in the embassy had told him so. Because Europe wanted to trade with Russia he said. Tremendous friend to Russia, really. And the years have passed and the sanctions are still in place. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/138 "2019-02-02T00:22:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Do we really need to rehash Benghazi? No, it’s hashtagBenghazi! ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/139 "2019-02-02T00:35:55Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > How long would it take? A day at most if Obama and Clinton wanted to act? I think so, my friend. > > The ambassador requested help. None came. Just saying its a stark contrast. Sure, Obama and Clinton could have gotten troops there within a day, if they’d wanted. Do you think Obama and Clinton could have gotten troops to Benghazi in under an hour? That’s how fast they would have needed to arrive, given that the first American was dead within an hour, all four were dead in less than eight, and all of the Americans in Benghazi were evacuated in a little over twelve hours? The attack at Benghazi started around 9:40 pm local time. At approximately 10:30 pm, a team of CIA personnel from the annex arrived at the consulate and removed Smith’s body; despite attempts, they were unable to locate Stevens in the smoke-filled building. Around 1 am, locals found Stevens and took him to hospital; he was pronounced dead about an hour later, after CPR proved unsuccessful. At 1:30 am, a security team from US Embassy Tripoli arrived in Benghazi; they finally arrived at the CIA annex about 5 am. Around 5:15 am, two CIA personnel at the annex (one of whom had arrived from Tripoli moments earlier) were killed in mortar fire. All remaining American personnel, including the bodies of the four dead, left for Tripoli around 10 am. Given this compressed timeline, what do you think Obama and Clinton realistically could have done differently once the attack started? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387/140 "2019-02-02T00:43:36Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > How long would it take? A day at most if Obama and Clinton wanted to act? I think so,\*\* my friend\*\*. > > The ambassador requested help. None came. Just saying its a stark contrast. Don’t be presumptuous. You are in no way my friend. They should have sent the LA SWAT team to bring in Stone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-arrested-in-early-morning-fbi-raid/828387.md?page=8)