# Roger Stone Guilty on All Counts **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497 "2019-11-15T16:59:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/1 "2019-11-15T16:59:34Z")
Not much else I can add. > **[Trump associate Roger Stone found guilty of lies that protected Trump | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/roger-stone-trial-verdict/index.html)** > > Longtime Trump political adviser Roger Stone was found guilty on Friday of lying to and obstructing Congress in a case that has shed new light on President Donald Trump's anticipation of the release of stolen Democratic emails in 2016 by WikiLeaks. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/2 "2019-11-15T17:06:37Z")
Good ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/3 "2019-11-15T17:19:34Z")
Recently-convicted Trump associates (all coming out of Mueller investigation, I think): - Paul Manafort - Michael Flynn - Rick Gates - George Papadopoulos - Michael Cohen - Roger Stone ---
**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/4 "2019-11-15T17:25:02Z")
“Get Me Roger Stone” is a fascinate documentary. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/5 "2019-11-15T17:29:32Z")
Think he gets a pardon? Trump has been surprisingly stingy with the pardons. What does he have to lose, especially at this point? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/6 "2019-11-15T17:35:39Z")
> [@MortSahlFan](#): > > “Get Me Roger Stone” is a fascinate documentary. It was. That’s why this conviction gives me such a deep sense of satisfaction. May he rot. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/7 "2019-11-15T17:37:27Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Trump has been surprisingly stingy with the pardons. \*nitpick. It’s reported that Trump is about to pardon some war criminals. _Washington Post_, via [_Stars and Stripes_](https://www.stripes.com/news/us/white-house-and-pentagon-prepare-for-trump-to-issue-pardons-in-war-crimes-cases-officials-say-1.607397): > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump is expected to intervene in three military justice cases involving service members charged with war crimes any day, issuing pardons or otherwise clearing them of wrongdoing and preventing the U.S. military from bringing the same charges again, three U.S. officials said Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/8 "2019-11-15T17:49:39Z")
[Shimon Prokupecz](https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1195389739777560578), journalist: > [@](#): > > Stone under a gag order can’t say anything leaving court. [video] That would probably have hurt Stone more than anything. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/9 "2019-11-15T18:07:30Z")
I’m sure he’ll look smashing in orange. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/10 "2019-11-15T18:14:54Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Good Concur. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/11 "2019-11-15T18:16:47Z")
When’s the sentencing date? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/12 "2019-11-15T18:22:01Z")
It’s Feb 6. The prosecution wanted him in custody immediately, since he keeps breaking the conditions of his bond. Yesterday he was in touch with Alex Jones (AKA “a reporter”, which is verboten). ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/13 "2019-11-15T18:27:43Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > When’s the sentencing date? After cert is denied and shortly before the pardon is granted. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/14 "2019-11-15T19:05:54Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Think he gets a pardon? Trump has been surprisingly stingy with the pardons. What does he have to lose, especially at this point? That’s not how Trump thinks. He’s asking what does he have to gain from pardoning somebody. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/15 "2019-11-15T19:11:07Z")
A short message to Roger Stone, his lawyers, and friends: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck yoooooooooou! And oh yeah, maybe you can reunite with Individual Number One in early 2021. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/16 "2019-11-15T19:18:45Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > After cert is denied and shortly before the pardon is granted. Pardon Roger who?.. Never heard of him… he was only involved with the campaign long enough for a coffee and donut. I heard he took a box of donuts before he left. Very dishonest guy. People say he voted for Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/17 "2019-11-15T19:37:25Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > After cert is denied and shortly before the pardon is granted. If Stone’s pardoned, he can be compelled to testify. Trump might still be dumb enough to do it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/18 "2019-11-15T20:04:59Z")
So either way Stone is bound for a long prison stretch - either on these charges or on Contempt charges when he refuses to testify. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/19 "2019-11-15T20:29:11Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Recently-convicted Trump associates (all coming out of Mueller investigation, I think): > > - Paul Manafort > - Michael Flynn > - Rick Gates > - George Papadopoulos > - Michael Cohen > - Roger Stone Most successful witch hunt in the history of witch hunts. All these witches found to be witches by an actual impartial jury. I thought that witch hunt was supposed to be a situation where you try to pin bad things on innocent (non-witch) people, and yet here we are. Maybe the term witch hunt should be retired by the president’s supporters (and the president himself) at this point? ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497/20 "2019-11-15T20:42:09Z")
I think _Esquire_ said it best: > **[Professional Ratf\*cker Roger Stone Has F\*cked His Last Rat](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29813171/roger-stone-convicted-seven-counts-lying-congress/?utm_campaign=socialflowFBESQ&utm_medium=social-media&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3h1FufimA2IlI5PFE0EaRe_3L1pGfa2EVX3nrOBg0Oc5rHR8QS75xDhTQ)** > > But his crimes against democracy—which the Republican Party abided as long as it was convenient—will never be atoned for. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-stone-guilty-on-all-counts/843497.md?page=2)