# Roger Waters is a tankie **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 7, 2022, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234 "2022-08-07T05:05:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/81 "2022-08-11T14:57:03Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > ::gravely disappointed there’s _still_ no reports of _ **{{{MASS HECKLING}}}** _ of Roger:: > > Flash heckle mob? > > At least deserving of having pizza thrown at thim. Still seems to have lots of adoring fans, [based on his concert last night in Columbus](http://dispatch.com/story/entertainment/music/2022/08/11/roger-waters-concert-filled-with-hits-political-statements/10250187002/): “During one short monologue toward the end, Waters claimed “CNN made me look like a (expletive),” following it by saying he would always stand first for “human rights.” Earlier, he said, “If you don’t know what’s wrong with me, read the papers,” in a remark that likely referred to the recent controversy, set off by [an interview on CNN that questioned his inclusion of Biden in the “War Criminals” video](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/08/06/smr-roger-waters.cnn).” …the biggest cheers of the evening came during Waters’ litany of gripes declared in huge letters onscreen, especially “(Expletive) The Supreme Court” and “(Expletive) The Patriarchy.”" ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/82 "2022-08-11T15:48:13Z")
If Waters is going to list “Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden” as “war criminals”, and not include W\*, then he really is well and truly wack. \* and Putin ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/83 "2022-08-11T20:33:28Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > …and not include W… Dick Cheney was included, so I think the W administration was represented. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/84 "2022-08-11T21:18:00Z")
If your position is that war is, de facto, criminal then it’s likely that nearly every president is a war criminal. I don’t agree with the idea but it is arguably fair. When the police think that John robbed the bank, they don’t fight their way to John by blowing their way through his friends, coworkers, children, and wife before trying to snag John. They just sneak in, grab him, and haul him to court. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/85 "2022-08-16T00:28:11Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I’ve referred on other occasions to Emeritus Syndrome, where formerly respected scientists who’ve been put out to pasture embrace increasingly bizarre theories in fields in which they lack expertise - Kary Mullis and William Shockley, for instance. I call it the Diego Maradonna Syndrome … you can be a genius in one discipline, but that does not make you one in others … - Maradonna showed that again-and-again (failing basically in anything except PLAYING football). - Nikki Lauda was the same … in F1 possible one of the smartest cookies … anywhere else not so much ( going from serial airline-bankruptcies to mean ol’ a-hole in his later years) Same is true for RW here … Interesting development, nevertheless … going from from young, highly talented, world-open persona to basically being your run-of-the-mill grumpy old “get off my lawn” conservative grandfather ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/86 "2022-08-16T15:26:19Z")
I’ve seen him live twice. I was at the Berlin Wall concert. An amazing moment. There were no extra messages other than what was already in The Wall. The other time was at the 12-12-12 concert for Hurricane Sandy relief. He turned one of his songs into a screed about some injustice that happened to a guy in England by the police. I’m sure no one at the concert had any idea what it was about nor should they since they didn’t live in the UK. It feels to me his rants are a form of masturbation rather than wanting to educate people. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/87 "2022-08-16T19:15:56Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > It feels to me his rants are a form of masturbation rather than wanting to educate people. “All these people paid to come listen to me, I’m going to take advantage of that.” ---
**Author:** ![journeyman\_southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5e9695/32.png) [@journeyman\_southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/journeyman_southpaw)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/88 "2022-09-07T00:19:56Z")
Waters posted [an open letter](https://t.co/YPe13ChnwE) to First Lady Olena Zelenska the other day seeking her support in persuading her husband to end the war. She [responded on Twitter](https://mobile.twitter.com/ZelenskaUA/status/1567182927703728129?cxt=HHwWgoCz_bik4L8rAAAA) today. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/89 "2022-09-07T00:38:51Z")
Any truth to the rumor that an over-the-hill dumbass supergroup is in the works? Roger Waters, Eric Clapton, Van Morrison and Ted Nugent - together at last for the Drained Brains concert tour. Each show will feature five minutes of what passes for music, along with two hours of loopy political invective. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/90 "2022-09-07T01:03:26Z")
> [@journeyman\_southpaw](#): > > Waters posted [an open letter](https://t.co/YPe13ChnwE) to First Lady Olena Zelenska the other day He certainly penned a similar letter to Putin, right? It would only be sensible. ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/91 "2022-09-07T03:08:34Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > He certainly penned a similar letter to Putin, right? It would only be sensible. Exactly. It’s so infuriating. That and the Russian spelling of Kyiv. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/92 "2022-09-07T06:15:15Z")
What a fucking history ignoramus he is: “Throwing fuel, in the form of armaments, into a fire fight, has never worked to shorten a war in the past” Sure, buddy, Lend-Lease had no effect on shortening WWII 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/93 "2022-09-07T07:54:32Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Sure, buddy, Lend-Lease had no effect on shortening WWII 🙄 If you’ll refer back to the OP, you’ll see that Waters apparently thinks that the US and Britain had nothing whatsoever to do with winning the war and Stalin could have done it all on his own without them. His dislike for Margaret Thatcher has clearly metastasized into full-blown brain worms. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/94 "2022-09-07T14:19:40Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > into full-blown brain worms. “Waiting for the worms…to come.” I’m beginning to see that the “fascist Pink” on side 4 of The Wall was more real than I’d suspected. You know, Rog, we ALL lose our Daddies. You’re not even the only one whose died in war. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/95 "2022-09-07T22:23:46Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > You know, Rog, we ALL lose our Daddies. You’re not even the only one whose died in war. Curious - I looked into what his father looked like, and came up only with [this article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2452473/Pink-Floyd-star-Roger-Waters-soldier-fathers-final-hours-WW2-revealed-dramatic-dispatches.html), and couldn’t help but notice when I first saw his mom, I thought that was him, as a gangly, awkward, young teenager (with very young sibs). Definitely didn’t get his looks from the old man, who looks great in this photo, like some snivelling ‘bounder’, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/96 "2022-09-07T23:35:48Z")
Eric Waters died so we all could rock. ---
**Author:** ![Nunyadambizznezz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nunyadambizznezz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunyadambizznezz)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/97 "2022-09-07T23:53:09Z")
This is making it awfully hard to unload my two VIP tickets for his last US show (Dallas). I agree though. Among other reasons that’s why I’m not going. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/98 "2022-09-08T00:03:04Z")
What did those tix cost ya? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/99 "2022-09-08T03:14:57Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Eric Waters died so we all could rock. We’d have never heard of this wanker if Rick Wright didn’t teach him to tune his bass. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/100 "2022-09-08T13:32:14Z")
> [@Nunyadambizznezz](#): > > This is making it awfully hard to unload my two VIP tickets for his last US show (Dallas). I agree though. Among other reasons that’s why I’m not going. Yes, this makes me officially no longer like Roger Waters, and it is sad. In addition, it throws some shade onto the genuineness of his Floydian anti-war songs. It seems less of a general statement about the awfulness and uncaringness of _all_ war and more of a statement about the aims of only _some_ of the generalissimos. Generalissimos he likes are free to kill fathers, of course. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234.md?page=6)