# Roger Waters is a tankie **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 7, 2022, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234 "2022-08-07T05:05:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/121 "2022-09-13T18:56:08Z")
I saw Roger a few weeks ago. It’s amazing that at 79 he’s still able to get out there and rock like he does. As far as his political commentary that’s just a part of who he is, he’s more of a troll than a real far leftie. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/122 "2022-09-13T19:00:08Z")
I would reserve “tankie” for actual Marxist-Leninists. Waters doesn’t seem to have any particular coherent ideology, just a grab bag of often-contradictory “anti-establishment” beliefs. I’d probably go with “nutcase”. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/123 "2022-09-25T05:37:51Z")
> **[Pink Floyd founder cancels Poland concerts after war remarks](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-entertainment-poland-krakow-0c05a0cf6fb1952a33e105f35007e3a0)** > > WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters has canceled concerts planned in Poland amid outrage over his stance on Russia's war against Ukraine, Polish media reported Saturday. An official with the Tauron Arena in Krakow, where Waters... _Hmph_ - he’ll take his bass and amp somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/124 "2022-09-25T13:30:15Z")
Dang, I was looking forward to Roger educating the Poles on the benefits of Russia invading their country. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/125 "2022-09-25T15:59:49Z")
> City councilors in Krakow were expected to vote next week on a proposal to name Waters as a persona non grata Unfortunately, the article doesn’t clarify whether this would just be a symbolic “You Suck” statement or whether he could actually get arrested if he showed up. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/126 "2022-09-25T16:07:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Dang, I was looking forward to Roger educating the Poles on the benefits of Russia invading their country. It was going to be a “Lie back and enjoy it” kind of lecture. ---
**Author:** ![jehan1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@jehan1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jehan1)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/127 "2022-09-25T23:16:15Z")
I’m surprised nobody has pointed this out yet. He may be mush-brained, but he’s not a boomer, Born in 1943- which makes him a war baby- a (very) late Silent generation, like a lot of the classic rockers. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/128 "2022-09-25T23:25:44Z")
From how I’ve seen folks use it ‘boomer’ no longer has anything to do with generational cohorts. If Waters was taking another position he wouldn’t be being called a ‘boomer’. (He still might be called a boomer for not using the trendiest social media platform of course.) At this point it’s just an, ageist, slur. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/129 "2022-09-26T00:03:55Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > At this point it’s just an, ageist, slur. Hardly. “Boomer” is a mindset at this point. I’ve encountered boomers in their 30s. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/130 "2022-09-26T00:35:16Z")
As I entered middle age I decided to _own_ the Boomer label since the Millennials just assume it. Though unlike Rog, I _am_ technically inside the Boomer bracket by the American definition, I am so late in the time frame that I got many of the key cultural touchstones by reference years later, not “live as it happened”. And not being from the dominant culture group some of it had to be explained to me. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/131 "2022-09-26T10:41:43Z")
I like to point out since no one else did he also doesn’t know his history, the Soviets weren’t “already winning” by the time America joined the war on December 7th 1941, they had just barely survived and held during the Battle of Moscow. It wouldn’t be until Spring 1943 you could point to a definite turning of the tide in Stalingrad. ---
**Author:** ![journeyman\_southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5e9695/32.png) [@journeyman\_southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/journeyman_southpaw)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/132 "2022-10-04T21:00:43Z")
Waters keeps on digging, now dismissing reports of Russian war crimes as propaganda and claiming he’s on a Ukrainian ‘kill list’: > **[Roger Waters: I'm on a Ukrainian 'Kill List'](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/roger-waters-ukrainian-kill-list-1234604081/)** > > In an explosive, wide-ranging interview, the Pink Floyd co-founder discusses his controversial views on Ukraine — and Russia, and Wikileaks, and Israel, and so much more.  ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/133 "2022-10-04T21:52:54Z")
> [@journeyman\_southpaw](#): > > Waters keeps on digging, You’re nearly a good laugh Almost a joker With your head down in the pig bin Saying, “Keep on digging” Putin stain on your fat chin What do you hope to find? Down in the pig mine You’re nearly a laugh You’re nearly a laugh But you’re really a cry ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/134 "2022-10-04T22:02:56Z")
> [@journeyman\_southpaw](#): > > Waters keeps on digging, now dismissing reports of Russian war crimes as propaganda and claiming he’s on a Ukrainian ‘kill list’: That sounds like flat-out paranoia, as in actual mental illness. ☹ That’s not being an asshole, that’s someone who needs help. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/135 "2022-10-04T22:53:40Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That sounds like flat-out paranoia, as in actual mental illness. ☹ But it was only fantasy The wall was too high, as you can see No matter how he tried, he could not break free And the worms ate into his brain ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/136 "2022-10-04T23:16:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > that’s someone who needs help The paper holds his folded face to the floor And every day, the paperboy brings more (this shit can go on at great length, long, long after everyone has gotten sick of it) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/137 "2022-10-04T23:17:54Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > (this shit can go on at great length, long, long after everyone has gotten sick of it) It fills me with the urge to defecate. > [@journeyman\_southpaw](#): > > claiming he’s on a Ukrainian ‘kill list _One of these days, I’m going to cut you into little pieces!_ ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/138 "2022-10-04T23:23:33Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > One of these days, I’m going to cut you into little pieces! Careful with that ax, Rog. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/139 "2022-10-04T23:26:19Z")
I can’t imagine how confused people not fans of Pink Floyd are with the recent developments of this thread. But I at least enjoy them. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/140 "2022-10-05T00:53:23Z")
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