# Roger Waters is a tankie

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 7, 2022, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234 "2022-08-07T05:05:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/141 "2022-10-05T00:54:45Z")

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Good one. And David Gilmour sings it to him.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/142 "2022-10-05T00:59:02Z")

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_And they’ll send you back to Mother in a cardboard box!_

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/143 "2022-10-05T01:01:32Z")

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_I gotta admit that I’m a little bit confused_  
_Sometimes it seems to me as if I’m just being used_

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/144 "2022-10-05T01:10:10Z")

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_The memories of a man in his old age  
are the deeds of a man in his prime_

No room there, apparently, to remember who started the Ukraine war.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/145 "2022-10-05T01:27:50Z")

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Pink Floyd: David Gilmour and three plonks.

I don’t necessarily agree with this, but it’s something I’ve heard.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/146 "2022-10-05T01:47:03Z")

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Meh, I’d resign with Waters not being a plonk so much as a relatively talented asshole.

_The lunatic, is in [my] head._

_Now there’s a look in [my] eyes, like black holes in the sky._

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/147 "2022-10-05T02:08:12Z")

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Heh… he’s basically telling Ukraine to _exchange a lead role in the war for a walk(ed up)on bit in a cage._

(Which only reinforces that the original way was better written. And goodness gracious are we geeks.)

And yeah, man, sorry, “on an Ukrainian kill list”? WTF is happening to people? Are all the wireless things around _actually_ frying our brains 😜?? Is this evidence drugs DO have long term bad aftereffects? (Looks around house. Is relieved to find NO Trump or Larouche paraphernalia) I seem to be still holding out but should I worry??

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/148 "2022-10-05T02:34:39Z")

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Or perhaps he has worn out his cachet with random precision and it is too late to lose the weight he needs to throw around.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/149 "2022-10-05T02:36:12Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Is this evidence drugs DO have long term bad aftereffects?

It’s just a little pinprick. There’ll be no more AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, but you may feel a little sick.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/150 "2022-10-05T05:58:33Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That’s not being an asshole, that’s someone who needs help.

_¿Por qué no los dos?_ Like the late Earl Warren.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/151 "2022-10-05T14:14:41Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> No room there, apparently, to remember who started the Ukraine war.

Is there room for Putin at the Fletcher Memorial Home?

Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere  
And build them a home a little place of their own  
the Fletcher Memorial Home  
For incurable tyrants and kings

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**Author:** ![Chelonaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@Chelonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chelonaut)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/152 "2022-10-06T07:44:14Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Heh… he’s basically telling Ukraine to \*exchange a lead role in the war for a walk(ed up)on bit in a cage.
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> (Which only reinforces that the original way was better written. And goodness gracious are we geeks.)

What’s really weird is he quoted the original line in the cringe-inducing open letter he sent to Zelenskys wife, where he argued for stopping the war at any cost. All the times I played “Wish you were here” and heard that line, I never imagined that the cage was supposed to be the good choice.

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> And yeah, man, sorry, “on an Ukrainian kill list”? WTF is happening to people? Are all the wireless things around _actually_ frying our brains

He probably refers to a list of russian disinfo agents assembled by Ukraines “Center for Countering Disinformation”. Many of the people finding themselves on the list reacted by parroting a new piece of russian disnfo, that it was a “kill list”.

Its in Ukraine but Roger is no 8 from the bottom:  
[https://cpd.gov.ua/reports/spikery-yaki-prosuvayut-spivzvuchni-rosijskij-propagandi-naratyvy￼/](https://cpd.gov.ua/reports/spikery-yaki-prosuvayut-spivzvuchni-rosijskij-propagandi-naratyvy%ef%bf%bc/)

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/153 "2022-10-06T09:51:29Z")

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mentioned it upthread … the Maradonna/Nugent/Waters effect:

being brilliant in ONE thing doesn’t make you brilliant in others … quite often the opposite

also: he is now 78 (or 79?) years old … so think of him more like your **weird uncle Joe** than the rockstar he is in our memory

but yes, he should have stopped digging years ago and not harm his legacy

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/154 "2022-10-06T17:37:08Z")

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> [@Chelonaut](#):
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> …a list of russian disinfo agents…

Heh. Great list (with thanks to Google Translate). Glad to see that Tucker is on it too. Along with Steven Segal and Rand Paul. That’s some august company, right Rog?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/155 "2022-10-06T18:00:33Z")

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> [@Al128](#):
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> …he should have stopped digging years ago and not harm his legacy

He’s worked longer on destroying whatever ‘legacy’ he had than he spent building it.

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/156 "2022-10-07T19:07:54Z")

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> [@Chelonaut](#):
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> I never imagined that the cage was supposed to be the good choice.

Well, would you rather have a walk-on part in a war or a lead role in a cage? You may survive that walk-on, but at what cost to your mind / body / soul? If you truly believe that war is a bad thing, then the lead role is the one for you.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/157 "2022-10-19T20:40:41Z")

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Maradona. One “n”.

Continue.

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/158 "2022-11-10T09:24:48Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> He’s worked longer on destroying whatever ‘legacy’ he had than he spent building it.

interesting observation, indeed …

goes to show that 10 good years (say '67 - '77 and throw in '92 for a good album) radiate more than 20 years of boredom and pain

had he stopped giving interviews in 2000 he’d be “the legend”, now he’s “the legend, but …”

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/159 "2022-11-10T14:32:00Z")

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> [@Al128](#):
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> '67 - '77

While I’m with you, I like The Wall. I think it’s still a good album, (if you ignore the fascist part of side 4), but yes it really is the beginnings of Ranty Rog the tankie.

( I think The Gunner’s Dream, and The Final Cut are two of their very best songs, but the rest of album can be used to line a pig trough as far as I’m concerned.)

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roger-waters-is-a-tankie/969234/160 "2022-11-11T12:08:17Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Waters has pretty much always been an asshole, hasn’t he? We’re talking about a man who tried to unilaterally dissolve Pink Floyd because he thought the band was a “spent force creatively,” but then proceeded to spend the majority of the rest of his career, right up to today, making a living performing Pink Floyd music.

Poster for his current tour:

[![](https://rogerwaters.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/rogerwaters-1024x662.jpg) ](https://rogerwaters.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/rogerwaters-1024x662.jpg)

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