# "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story" trailer

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 7, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432 "2016-04-07T13:05:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/61 "2016-04-08T20:38:11Z")

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I was skeptical of this whole “Star Wars Story” thing until I saw the trailer. Then it hit me:  
The OT is a core part of my life. Saying I love it is an insulting understatement.

I liked the PT when I saw it, though the bulk of it hasn’t aged well.

I loved TFA for what it was, though it was flawed.

But Rogue One looks poised to deliver what I’ve been wanting for 33 years, and didn’t even realize it. I don’t want something 30 years before Star Wars. I don’t want something 30 years after Star Wars. I want _more_ Star Wars. And to me, the Star Wars is the OT. Seeing Star Destroyers, AT-AT’s, and Stormtroopers that weren’t interesting _visual tweaks_ on Star Destroyers, AT-AT’s, and Stormtroopers, but ACTUAL Star Destroyers, AT-AT’s, and Stormtroopers was thrilling in a way I didn’t know was missing. I’m psyched beyond reason, just from one teaser.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/62 "2016-04-08T20:49:29Z")

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Um, I thought that prior to capturing the ship, Princess Leia was a big deal in the rebel part, didn’t Vader suspect her of being one, and she was a senator/representative from her planet (seems like a high position, and being a rebel at that position equals that may be an important person).

I think although the movie is about the crew that gained the plans to destroy the Death Star, most of the action can occur before they get the plans. It could set up how life was in the years after Revenge of the Sith and just before ANH. It could span years if they get involved into some of the political attacks and battles in the years between, culminating with the crew assembling and getting the plans of this new shiny thing they discovered (Death Star).

So although the last part of the movie connects immediately or almost to the start of ANH, the rest of the movie doesn’t have to occur in that time, it can span longer.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/63 "2016-04-08T20:54:31Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Princess Leia is not necessarily an important figure prior to the events of “Star Wars,” at least as far as anyone outside of her father and Ben Kenobi are aware; she might be the 17,864th most important Rebel sympathizer. Heck, maybe her adoptive father has been trying to keep her away from the rebellion but she’s secretly a part of it because, well, she’s Leia, it’s her nature to fight. And then she suddenly becomes REALLY important when the Death Star plans land in her lap, which draws Luke Skywalker and Han Solo to her, etc. etc.

_Rebels_ has introduced new canon around this issue: Leia’s adoptive father, Bail Organa, is one of the founding members of the Rebellion, and Leia is involved in it up to her eyeballs. An episode this season had her in command of a mission to smuggle some cruisers to the Rebellion, without blowing her cover as a loyal member of the Imperial Senate.

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**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/64 "2016-04-08T21:16:00Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Perhaps no Jedi in this film, but I would love to catch a glimpse of Vader and a bit of dialog when the Rebels are on the Death Star.
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> Looks better than I thought it might. I think I got a tingle, even.

Vader is supposed to have a “large presence” in the film. We’ll have to wait to see what exactly that means.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/65 "2016-04-08T22:50:27Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I reckon Mae Whitman would be a good young Leia.

Her?

edit: grrr… lousy randmcnally with all your hats on your feet and hamburgers eating people…

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/66 "2016-04-08T22:56:33Z")

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> [@Daddypants](#):
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> Vader is supposed to have a “large presence” in the film. We’ll have to wait to see what exactly that means.

I’m hoping he’s more like the shark in Jaws or the T-rex in Jurassic Park. He’s not constantly on the screen, and the main characters don’t interacting with him directly that much, but he’s always right behind them. Ramp up the tension that he could attack at any moment.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/67 "2016-04-09T00:35:04Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Seeing Star Destroyers, AT-AT’s, and Stormtroopers that weren’t interesting _visual tweaks_ on Star Destroyers, AT-AT’s, and Stormtroopers, but ACTUAL Star Destroyers, AT-AT’s, and Stormtroopers was thrilling in a way I didn’t know was missing.

Actually, the AT-ATs are slightly visually tweaked. The heads are a different design, and don’t seem to have the “mouth” guns.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/68 "2016-04-09T00:41:01Z")

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Which one is this a remake of ? 5 or 6?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/69 "2016-04-09T01:03:59Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay;19244986

A somewhat tougher thing to get around will be the character of Tarkin, who is an immensely important person - in Star Wars he appears to be the Empire’s most senior military officer and in some ways superior to Darth Vader. Peter Cushing is rather dead, and would be 103 years old now anyway, so I’m not sure if they’re going to recast that role or avoid it. Depends how you approach the story. (ETA: Apparently they will use digital trickery to have Cushing’s Tarkin in the movie.)

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I assumed the old-ish guy in the white outfit with the cape in the trailer _was_ Tarkin.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/70 "2016-04-09T01:14:04Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> _Rebels_ has introduced new canon around this issue: Leia’s adoptive father, Bail Organa, is one of the founding members of the Rebellion, and Leia is involved in it up to her eyeballs. An episode this season had her in command of a mission to smuggle some cruisers to the Rebellion, without blowing her cover as a loyal member of the Imperial Senate.

That wasn’t even really in _Rebels_ first. I know many people seem to loathe those movies, but Bail Organa was effectively present at the founding of the Rebellion in Episode 3.

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/71 "2016-04-09T01:41:37Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Actually, the AT-ATs are slightly visually tweaked. The heads are a different design, and don’t seem to have the “mouth” guns.

OK, yeah, I missed that, and, yes, there’s that silver-ish stormtrooper that looks like he got crossed with a cylon centurion, but for the most part, it _feels_ like the OT, at least from this small snippet.

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**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/72 "2016-04-09T01:43:49Z")

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Am I alone in thinking it’d be kind of cool if this ends up with the main character succeeding, getting the plans off, and escaping to what seems like it’s a place where she’ll be able to wait off the heat–except the last scene reveals she’s doing the debrief on Alderaan?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/73 "2016-04-09T02:20:54Z")

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Its looks worthy. And original unlike TFA.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/74 "2016-04-09T02:45:06Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> That wasn’t even really in _Rebels_ first. I know many people seem to loathe those movies, but Bail Organa was effectively present at the founding of the Rebellion in Episode 3.

The Leia stuff is new, though.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/75 "2016-04-09T02:50:08Z")

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I see a lot of Rebels and Clone Wars (cartoon) talk…are they considered canon?

I guess I assumed so, but I literally never see any reference to them outside of Disney Channel

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/76 "2016-04-09T03:09:53Z")

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Yeah, when Disney bought Lucas out, they threw out everything except the six movies, and the _Clone Wars_ cartoon. _Rebels_ is basically Disney’s sequel to _Clone Wars_, and like all of the Disney Star Wars stuff, is part of the new canon.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/77 "2016-04-09T04:29:59Z")

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> [@Cell\_Guy](#):
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> There was only one–Manny Bothans. He was a good man. The Rebellion took care of his family after the fall of the Empire.
> 
> Oh, the trailer looks good.

[Manuel Both-Hanz](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Manuel_Both-Hanz)

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**Author:** ![GoodOldKJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GoodOldKJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOldKJ)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/78 "2016-04-09T06:49:15Z")

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I think I have watched it 25 times already!  
Is it December yet?

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/79 "2016-04-09T08:39:16Z")

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> [@GoodOldKJ](#):
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> Is it December yet?

Yes it is! Hurrah!

Oh wait. No, it isn’t.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/80 "2016-04-09T08:52:52Z")

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> **[Star Wars: Dark Forces](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Dark_Forces)**
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> Star Wars: Dark Forces is a first-person shooter computer game released on February 15, 1995,\[1\] by LucasArts. The game introduces the character of Kyle Katarn, a former Imperial stormtrooper and agent, now a mercenary for hire in the service of the...

About the game “Dark Forces” from 1995:

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> The first mission (which was also released independently as a demo of the game) involved infiltration of an Imperial base on the planet Danuta, in order to steal the Death Star plans. The Mission to Danuta resulted in Rebel possession of the plans that would later be given to Princess Leia and lead to the destruction of the Death Star.

Not sure which Death Star it involved.

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