# "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story" trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 7, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432 "2016-04-07T13:05:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/81 "2016-04-09T09:29:27Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > About the game “Dark Forces” from 1995 Like most of the previous Expanded Universe, the games (which weren’t really considered canonical anyway, because there are so many open-ended elements, and [unlikely situations](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXp8T097vjc)) have all been wiped from canon. This movie is one of the reasons why, so they can retell those stories properly. Having said that, there was a scene in the season finale of _Star Wars Rebels_ that seemed to be inspired by events that occur in the _Knights of the Old Republic_ video game. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/82 "2016-04-09T15:43:00Z")
Does Mon Mothma get more than 30 seconds this time? ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/83 "2016-04-10T13:49:03Z")
> [@Daddypants](#): > > Rogue One is the story of how the rebels acquired the Death Star plans. Before they started contracting that sort of difficult work out to the Bothans. The trailer looks good, should be pretty exciting to see the Empire at its prime stomping about over everything again. As long as this bunch of Rebels doesn’t turn out to be so cool that it’s all just simple going through the motions, although it’s mostly harder science fiction that’s boring like that. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/84 "2016-04-10T14:46:13Z")
And Alan Tudyk is in it. Rumor has it that he’s doing motion capture to be a droid. He’s always solid. Plus, some “Firefly” fans might enjoy him in another sci-fi role. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/85 "2016-04-10T18:37:30Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > A somewhat tougher thing to get around will be the character of Tarkin, who is an immensely important person - in Star Wars he appears to be the Empire’s most senior military officer and in some ways superior to Darth Vader. Peter Cushing is rather dead, and would be 103 years old now anyway, so I’m not sure if they’re going to recast that role or avoid it. Depends how you approach the story. (ETA: Apparently they will use digital trickery to have Cushing’s Tarkin in the movie.) > > . They used [Wayne Pygram](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0701460/) (aka Scorpius from Farscape) in the brief Tarkin appearance at the end of Revenge of the Sith. I don’t think Wayne is as sallow-cheeked as Cushing, however. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/86 "2016-04-10T23:02:14Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > And Alan Tudyk is in it. Rumor has it that he’s doing motion capture to be a droid. You can see him in the trailer, there’s a tall dark blue droid that follows Jyn around in a couple of shots. Also, he’s already played a mo-cap robot before in _I, Robot_. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/87 "2016-04-13T23:16:51Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Like most of the previous Expanded Universe, the games (which weren’t really considered canonical anyway, because there are so many open-ended elements, and [unlikely situations](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXp8T097vjc)) have all been wiped from canon. This movie is one of the reasons why, so they can retell those stories properly. > > Having said that, there was a scene in the season finale of _Star Wars Rebels_ that seemed to be inspired by events that occur in the _Knights of the Old Republic_ video game. Not having watched the show, but enjoying the game, which events are you referring to? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/88 "2016-04-13T23:41:32Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Not having watched the show, but enjoying the game, which events are you referring to? The massacre at Malachor. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/89 "2016-04-13T23:50:30Z")
I saw an article arguing that the official lore lightsaber crossguard essentially made Malachor V from Knights of the Old Republic cannon. I think I linked to it on the Force Awakens thread. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/90 "2016-04-14T01:04:08Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > The massacre at Malachor. Neat ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/91 "2016-04-14T02:08:33Z")
How smart and mature is the _Rebels_ animated series? I started watching _Clone Wars_ on Netflix because posters here discussed how good it was. As I started watching, I thought it was terrible and it played like a weak kiddie show. Then I found out when I complained here that there were actually _two_ different animated _Clone Wars_ series and that one of them was smart and mature but the other one was more of a kiddie show- but they were _both_ titled _Clone Wars_. I thought, well that’s dumb. I never bothered to seek out the better of the two because I had no idea how I’d know which was which since they had the same name. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/92 "2016-04-14T03:26:07Z")
The two _Clone Wars_ series are pretty easy to tell apart just by the art style. The first one was done by Genndy Tartakovsky, the guy who created _The Powerpuff Girls_ and _Samurai Jack_, and [looked like this.](https://kpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/uploads/Clone01_t600.jpg?4326734cdb8e39baa3579048ef63ad7b451e7676) It had an odd format of super-short, three minute episodes, and ran three seasons - the last season switching to twelve minute episodes. The second series [looked like this](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nrul2fsQdro/maxresdefault.jpg), and used a more traditional 22 minute format. It ran for six seasons, but was in an anthology format that jumped back and forth in time a lot. The first season is a bit meh, but it eventually turns in to one of the best non-film _Star Wars_ properties I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure which series you watched, but _Rebels_ is a direct sequel to the second _Clone Wars_ series, so if you didn’t like that one, you probably wouldn’t like this one either. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/93 "2016-04-14T04:11:59Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The second series [looked like this](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nrul2fsQdro/maxresdefault.jpg), and used a more traditional 22 minute format. Ooops! I would seem that I actually did see “the good one”. The first episode had Yoda and some bad guys both land on the same planet to try to talk the ruler of that planet into siding with their side of the conflict. Some kind of race or contest was proposed to gain the loyalty of this planet. Throughout whatever it was that Yoda had to achieve, he taught lessons to the three clone soldiers who accompanied him. He taught them each that they were “special”. They actually had lines like “But I’m just a clone, I’m the same as all the others and everything about me is predetermined” and Yoda would say, “No, even though you are a clone you are unique and special, you just have to find the special thing about you that makes you special.” Well, I just about puked my guts out. I think I made it through half of the second episode. I’m glad it eventually became something decent but I’m surprised enough people stuck with it long enough to give it a chance to improve. When I came back to the SDMB to vomit about it and I found out that there were actually two different series, I thought for sure that I had been watching the kiddie version. So, I suppose I’ll pass on _Rebels_ as well. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/94 "2016-06-01T14:40:35Z")
Rogue One is getting reshoots: > **[More Details Have Been Revealed About Those Rogue One Reshoots](https://gizmodo.com/more-details-have-been-revealed-about-those-rogue-one-r-1779744810)** > > Rogue One: A Star Wars Story won’t be released for almost seven months, and yet it’s already the talk of fans everywhere. Today, lots of that talk was about a New York Post article saying the film was “in crisis” and needed “expensive reshoots.” A... ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/95 "2016-06-01T15:19:31Z")
Batman v. Superman is having a lot of repercussions in the film industry. More fingers in the pie, that’s the solution. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/96 "2016-06-01T15:27:22Z")
Darker! Grittier! darker! darker! **darker!** Yeah, well past time to knock that shit off. Very very few people want dark and grim Star Wars. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/97 "2016-06-01T15:51:04Z")
Wonder if we see Porkins in the movie Declan ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/98 "2016-06-02T03:56:05Z")
Actually, I think a little bit grimmer would be appropriate - and it’s not like we haven’t had at least pretty dark Star Wars movie, plus some canon episodes of _Clone Wars_. Since we know the Death Star will get asplodified, it wouldn’t be that bad to show the cost of getting the information. Of course, all TRUE Star Wars fans know that fourteen separate people stole the Death Star plans, and the coolest of all the thieves is Kyle Katarn. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/99 "2016-06-02T04:36:35Z")
Looks better than the frankly risible _Force Awakens_ ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432/100 "2016-06-02T10:35:42Z")
> [@Gordon\_Urquhart](#): > > Yep – count me in for a smaller heist film set in the _Star Wars_ universe. > > I mean, a smaller heist film that includes a moon-sized weapon and gigantic AT-ATs on the beach using the resources available only to a behemoth like Disney, but still … I think there a lot of good stories to come out of skilled storytellers using characters and situations with which we are familiar while introducing new characters and situations. > > It’s much like _Ant-Man_ from Marvel (downstream from Disney, too) – no, the entire planet wasn’t in peril in that movie, but the smaller stakes didn’t make it any less fun. I agree completely. 🆒 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-trailer/751432.md?page=6)