# Rogue One - seen it thread. (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 14, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722 "2016-12-14T21:12:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/221 "2016-12-21T00:44:12Z")
If you’ve played **Watch Dogs 2** just before seeing this movie, did you see the progress indicators in your mind? **Retrieve Data Tape** **Marcus:** All right, I got it. **Wrench:** Now, climb to the top of the radio tower and align the antenna. (humming sound that increases in pitch) **Data Uploading: 15%** ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/222 "2016-12-21T03:19:16Z")
Did anyone else think that the planet with the shield that has a gate that you need a code to open was a reference to Spaceballs? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/223 "2016-12-21T03:51:09Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > Did anyone else think that the planet with the shield that has a gate that you need a code to open was a reference to Spaceballs? Well, I didn’t until now… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/224 "2016-12-21T04:35:12Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > Did anyone else think that the planet with the shield that has a gate that you need a code to open was a reference to Spaceballs? That’s beautiful. A Dick Van Patten CGI cameo would have been perfect. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/225 "2016-12-21T04:42:29Z")
Another thing I haven’t seen mentioned here as a shout-out in relation to what I mentioned above: they have to use a code and are worried it might not be valid any more, much like how in one of the original movies (going to land on Endor I think) someone says “It’s an older code, but it checks out” when the Rebels again use a stolen imperial shuttle. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/226 "2016-12-21T04:47:31Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > Did anyone else think that the planet with the shield that has a gate that you need a code to open was a reference to Spaceballs? Oh Shit! There goes the planet… ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/227 "2016-12-21T05:17:28Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > Another thing I haven’t seen mentioned here as a shout-out in relation to what I mentioned above: they have to use a code and are worried it might not be valid any more, much like how in one of the original movies (going to land on Endor I think) someone says “It’s an older code, but it checks out” when the Rebels again use a stolen imperial shuttle. Yes. And Vader gives the order to detain it or something and goes to check it out himself because he can feel Luke’s presence on it. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/228 "2016-12-21T05:21:06Z")
OK wise guys the (estate of Peter Cushing) and Carrie Fisher were thanked in the credits. A lot of folks liked this better than The Force Awakens. Other than it was too much like a New Hope I think I prefer TFA. (A death star or something like it are in III (at least it is mentioned), IV, VI, VII, and R1). I really like the blind monk. I know the EU talks about force sensitive (but not Jedi or Sith) folks – nice to have a canon reference. (are all of his fellow monks blind?) (I would possibly count Maz Katana as force sensitive as well) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/229 "2016-12-21T06:23:05Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Oh Shit! There goes the planet… [Translated from Wookie] ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/230 "2016-12-21T06:33:20Z")
> [@Personal](#): > > That’s beautiful. A Dick Van Patten CGI cameo would have been perfect. Blue Leader: “Blue 2, 3, 4 & 5: lets open that gate!” ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/231 "2016-12-21T08:10:09Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > The naval term pre-dates the car by a couple hundred years. Ummmmm… yeah. The phrasing of my question clearly indicates a current knowledge of the naval term. I said I _ **had** _ never heard it as a naval term and asked if anyone else had never heard the naval term. I was thrown when the term was used in the movie because the most immediate reference that came to mind was the one I’m familiar with. Because it sounded so dumb to me _in the moment_, it jarred me out of the film for a split second, during which I said to myself, “Heh, probably also a naval term.” Thinking about it after the film, I looked it up and confirmed my suspicion then posted here asking if anyone else had been unfamiliar with the term. Of course, it should be implied that people like you who were already familiar with the term are way cooler than people like me who were not. I apologize for leaving your coolness unspoken but implied rather than expressing in descriptive terms just how much cooler you are. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/232 "2016-12-21T08:47:29Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > He looks like every other generic good-looking almost 30 year old playing a teenager Hollywood actor. Young Han should probably look more like Young Harrison Ford from around the same age: > [http://theredlist.com/media/database/muses/icon/cinematic\_men/1980/harrison-ford/001-harrison-ford-theredlist.jpg](http://theredlist.com/media/database/muses/icon/cinematic_men/1980/harrison-ford/001-harrison-ford-theredlist.jpg) Would that it were so simple. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/233 "2016-12-21T09:37:28Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Of course, it should be implied that people like you who were already familiar with the term are way cooler than people like me who were not. Leia’s ship has at least three commonly known names: The Blockade Runner; The Correllian Corvette; and The Tantive IV. Believe me, we are all aware how far from cool it is to know this stuff, and it’s certainly fine for anyone to not know. ---
**Author:** ![Mavic\_Chen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mavic\_Chen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavic_Chen)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/234 "2016-12-21T09:47:34Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Never mind the fact that any reference to an empire implies the existence of an emperor, but… > > **Grand Moff Tarkin:** The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that **the Emperor** has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away. > **General Tagge:** But that’s impossible. How will **the Emperor** maintain control without the bureaucracy? > **Grand Moff Tarkin:** The regional governors now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station. Oops, thank you, stupid memory :smack: ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/235 "2016-12-21T10:28:36Z")
The reason they sent Luke to Tattoine was since they figured that Darth Vader would never visit it again, too many bad memories. Yet Vader built a castle where he had even worse memories, i.e Mustafar. That theory now has (even more) holes in it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/236 "2016-12-21T11:09:44Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Yet Vader built a castle where he had even worse memories, i.e Mustafar. That theory now has (even more) holes in it. According to Wookieepedia, the new EU material for Rogue One confirms, as speculated above, that [Palpatine ordered Vader to build his sanctum on Mustafar.](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vader%27s_sanctum) Vader’s fear and hatred are what drove him to the Dark Side in the first place, and it’s likely that being forced to reside there constantly reinforces those feelings in him. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/237 "2016-12-21T12:36:10Z")
What trailers were attached to your viewing? I had: The Mummy The Space Between Us Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 Valerian and the City of 1000 planets Logan Dunkirk ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/238 "2016-12-21T12:54:31Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > The reason they sent Luke to Tattoine was since they figured that Darth Vader would never visit it again, too many bad memories. > > Yet Vader built a castle where he had even worse memories, i.e Mustafar. That theory now has (even more) holes in it. The reason they [stated in RoTS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_VKYf89XEE#t=2m30s) was that he had actual (step) relatives there, Owen and Beru. Obi-Wan: And what of the boy? Yoda: To Tatooine. To his family, send him. Obi-Wan: I will take the child and watch over him. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/239 "2016-12-21T13:48:43Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > He looks like every other generic good-looking almost 30 year old playing a teenager Hollywood actor. Young Han should probably look more like Young Harrison Ford from around the same age: > [http://theredlist.com/media/database/muses/icon/cinematic\_men/1980/harrison-ford/001-harrison-ford-theredlist.jpg](http://theredlist.com/media/database/muses/icon/cinematic_men/1980/harrison-ford/001-harrison-ford-theredlist.jpg) > > The naval term pre-dates the car by a couple hundred years. > > It’s like a explained to someone in another thread. A “star destroyer” is so named because it is a “destroyer” class warship that travels between the stars. Not because it destroys stars. > > Although that kind of reminds me of a Doctor Who episode where he explains to his companion that they don’t call it a “space restaurant” or “space hat”. It’s just a “restaurant” or a “hat”. > > Why? It’s not any sillier than land creatures like humans naming a car named after another land creature like the “Jaguar” or “Lynx”. > > Although it does seem kind of silly referring to the ship by it’s generic class/type, rather than it’s name or call sign. Like saying “tell that big cruiser to put fire on that star destroyer over there”. Kind of like someone wanted to make sure everyone knew what toy to ask for. > I kind of feel like the new Star Wars films have a bit too much of ships crashing into stuff without getting damaged. Like the Falcon bouncing off everything at high speed in The Force Awakens or the rebel transport bouncing off Darth Vader’s star destroyer in Rogue One. Star Destroyer or not, I kind of feel like you don’t want hundreds of tons of spaceship crashing into your ship at orbital speeds as you decelerate from light speed. Remember the Executor lost it’s entire bridge and went careening into the Death Star II in Jedi from a fighter smashing into it. These ships aren’t indestructible. I can’t find it, but isn’t there an xkcd that references this? Something like “Whats a millennium falcon?” and they explain millennium but then the punchline is “Yeah, but what’s a falcon?” ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/240 "2016-12-21T14:31:21Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Palpatine ordered Vader to build his sanctum on Mustafar. Vader’s fear and hatred are what drove him to the Dark Side in the first place, and it’s likely that being forced to reside there constantly reinforces those feelings in him. There’s … You got crickets and it’s quiet, there’s no place to walk after dinner, and there’s the screens with the dead moths behind them… and you got the-the Manson family possibly… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722.md?page=13)