# Rogue One - seen it thread. (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 14, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722 "2016-12-14T21:12:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/261 "2016-12-23T02:54:53Z")
That was one of the things that kinda took the “war movie” aspect out of the movie and turned it into a typical space opera type film. The cliche that the man protagonist and main villain must face each other personally at the end. Having her get blown away by the TIE fighter after transmitting the plans would have been more fitting I think. Then you can have Krennic die because of the Death Star, which would also be fitting given that it was his project. But that’s nitpicking, Disney can do no wrong as far as I’m concerned. From their animated films, to Marvel, to Star Wars, to even their live action family films, this is another golden age for them. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/262 "2016-12-23T12:42:44Z")
I can’t think of any scenario where a TIE Fighter just hovering menacingly in front of her actually made any sense. It looks cool, but that shot’s always bugged me a bit. Most likely it’s just something they threw together for the trailer, as I’m 98% sure that the same shot actually got used in the film, minus the TIE fighter, with her walking out to the precariously placed control panel (OSHA was the first department to get the axe when Palpatine started cutting down on Bureaucracy in the Republic) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/263 "2016-12-23T12:56:14Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > One big mystery for me is why the awesome shot of the TIE figther just coming up in front of Jyn wasn’t included. I’m guessing that there was no outcome to that situation that would have been plausible that didn’t involve Jyn dying right there, but it sure was an amazing shot. It must have been from the original edit of the movie. The reshoots probably did indeed move Krennic’s death. Perhaps his death was disappointingly filmed originally. Or, as I like to believe, he even flew the Tie Fighter shown in the trailer, rising up like a final boss in a video game. That would have been hilarious. “This is my death star! My DEATH STAR!!” ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/264 "2016-12-23T13:15:34Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > One big mystery for me is why the awesome shot of the TIE figther just coming up in front of Jyn wasn’t included. Because it’s a cliche? True Lies, Aliens, Serenity, etc, etc. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/265 "2016-12-23T13:30:23Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > I can’t think of any scenario where a TIE Fighter just hovering menacingly in front of her actually made any sense. It looks cool, but that shot’s always bugged me a bit. Most likely it’s just something they threw together for the trailer, as I’m 98% sure that the same shot actually got used in the film, minus the TIE fighter, with her walking out to the precariously placed control panel (OSHA was the first department to get the axe when Palpatine started cutting down on Bureaucracy in the Republic) If i had to guess it was a fake scare, you see the TIE fighter and think she is fucked but it was Cassian picking her up. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/266 "2016-12-23T13:42:37Z")
This site agrees with you, DC: > **[What The 'Rogue One' Missing Trailer Footage Tell Us About The Reshoots - /Film](https://www.slashfilm.com/548251/rogue-one-missing-trailer-footage/)** > > There is a lot of Rogue One missing trailer footage. What do these snippets that appeared in the marketing but not the movie tell us about the reshoots? It seems that based on the trailers, Jyn was probably going to need to escape down to the beach with everyone, possibly via TIE Fighter. Maybe 20 years from now we’ll get a “Superman II Donner Cut” version of Rogue One, with a completely different movie. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/267 "2016-12-23T14:04:36Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > If i had to guess it was a fake scare, you see the TIE fighter and think she is fucked but it was Cassian picking her up. It’s actually Poe Dameron, he needs her to come with him to the future, because her kids are in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/268 "2016-12-23T15:28:56Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > It’s actually Poe Dameron, he needs her to come with him to the future, because her kids are in trouble. 😃 From what I understand, the hovering TIE Fighter was from test footage. I believe they talked about this on the Rebel Force Radio podcast. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/269 "2016-12-23T16:07:44Z")
I saw it and enjoyed it. On the whole “everyone dies” thing, it’s pretty clear in the movie that, when they learn that the shield’s been closed, they all _know_ that extraction has just become impossible, and that they’re going to die. And they keep on with the mission anyway. Tarkin wasn’t a distraction at all to me. To the extent I thought about it at all (which wasn’t much), I just assumed that they had gotten a look-alike actor, like they did for Mon Mothma. He certainly didn’t slip into the Uncanny Valley for me. Leia might have, but she was on screen too briefly to notice. When we saw her in her robes from the back, I was thinking at first that they might not even show her face at all. When they did, that was the end of the movie, so the friend I saw it with and I had an opportunity to speculate about how they did her, whether she was a look-alike, or a digitally-youthened real Carrie Fisher, or a complete CGI construct. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/270 "2016-12-23T16:12:58Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > I can’t think of any scenario where a TIE Fighter just hovering menacingly in front of her actually made any sense. It looks cool, but that shot’s always bugged me a bit. Most likely it’s just something they threw together for the trailer, as I’m 98% sure that the same shot actually got used in the film, minus the TIE fighter, with her walking out to the precariously placed control panel (OSHA was the first department to get the axe when Palpatine started cutting down on Bureaucracy in the Republic) If you put up a railing, people will just be [leaning all day.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bSZXucTH4A) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/271 "2016-12-23T16:21:56Z")
On the other hand, it really facilitates suicide for those disaffected by their Imperial service. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/272 "2016-12-23T16:49:14Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > On the other hand, it really facilitates suicide for those disaffected by their Imperial service. That’s the secret to balancing the Imperial budget: no pensions. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/273 "2016-12-23T17:13:19Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I saw it and enjoyed it. On the whole “everyone dies” thing, it’s pretty clear in the movie that, when they learn that the shield’s been closed, they all _know_ that extraction has just become impossible, and that they’re going to die. And they keep on with the mission anyway. IIRC most of them don’t know that the shield is closed - only the few fighters that make it through - and those that do don’t tell those on the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/274 "2016-12-23T17:14:43Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > IIRC most of them don’t know that the shield is closed - only the few fighters that make it through - and those that do don’t tell those on the ground. Although they probably got a pretty good hint when the shuttle (their stated method of escape) got blown up. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/275 "2016-12-23T17:19:50Z")
I saw it yesterday and really enjoyed it. I hate the originally trilogy. I found them all boring. I’ve seen bits and pieces of the prequels but no interest in seeing more. I haven’t seen TFA and don’t really care to. But I heard this was a decent stand-alone film and I really, really liked it. Maybe I’ll just like the expanded universe flicks? Who knows. But Lea looked pretty bad to me. I didn’t even notice. Tarkin was CGI. I just thought he was creepy looking because he was creepy. I agree that Vader should’ve only been shown at the end. The choking pun was groan worthy. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/276 "2016-12-23T17:23:08Z")
I’d have to watch it again to be sure (oh, twist my arm!), but yeah, I’m inclined to think that the Vader scene in the middle part of the movie was only there for fanservice. The impact of his appearance would probably have been better if he was only mentioned by other characters (similar to the Emperor, and for that matter, Bail Organa, in A New Hope), only for him to make an abrupt and terrifying appearance in the very last part of the film. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/277 "2016-12-23T18:21:57Z")
Saw it yesterday with my work team, thanks boss! I loved it, even though I was a bit disappointed in that all the new characters were killed off. I would have liked to see them in future movies, but such is the movies. The ending felt solid. I’m getting a bit annoyed that everything built in the Star Wars universe has huge drops, narrow walkways, and way too many exposed areas. But I though the visuals were excellent. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/278 "2016-12-23T18:40:09Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > I’d have to watch it again to be sure (oh, twist my arm!), but yeah, I’m inclined to think that the Vader scene in the middle part of the movie was only there for fanservice. The impact of his appearance would probably have been better if he was only mentioned by other characters (similar to the Emperor, and for that matter, Bail Organa, in A New Hope), only for him to make an abrupt and terrifying appearance in the very last part of the film. It seems like the purpose of that scene was to further establish the bureaucratic rivalry of Krennic with Tarkin, show Krennic’s ambitions as the motivation for his actions, and affirm that Vader is officially or unofficially more powerful in the hierarchy than either Krennic or Tarkin. Essentially Krennic was complaining to an executive vice president of a regional manager’s attempts to sideline him. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/279 "2016-12-23T18:45:10Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > 😃 > > From what I understand, the hovering TIE Fighter was from test footage. I believe they talked about this on the Rebel Force Radio podcast. Nm ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rogue-one-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/774722/280 "2016-12-23T19:04:16Z")
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