# Roland Deschain, I have some choice words for you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 15, 2005, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853 "2005-01-15T10:15:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/61 "2005-01-18T08:48:09Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Great, **Finn** , now I’ve got Pepsi lodged in my sinuses. We aim to please. (And oh how different your statement would’ve been if you were drinking Coke) And _of course_ I want you to go into great detail about mucus. What, you think I’m some sort of conditioned hive robot who doesn’t let people be individuals? Perish the thought! Viva la snot! ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/62 "2005-01-18T09:09:59Z")
Wait! Wait! I find **CrazyCatLady** to be far too independent and out-spoken. Her personal involvement with Pepsi is just a little too much for me to deal with. Iced tea or water or orange juice is one thing. But anything that…_fizzes_…in a nasal passage is a little TMI considering who she is. That just isn’t discussed in the South. Now snot is within reason, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/63 "2005-01-18T09:16:57Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > We aim to please. > (And oh how different your statement would’ve been if you were drinking Coke) > > And _of course_ I want you to go into great detail about mucus. What, you think I’m some sort of conditioned hive robot who doesn’t let people be individuals? Perish the thought! Viva la snot! Around these parts, isn’t snot-talk a symptom of our particular kind of hive mind? (I’ve been reading old Threadspotting threads. They tend to stick with one.) ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/64 "2005-01-18T09:56:02Z")
Ya know, before today I didn’t even know that there was a threadspotting. Thanks to you I’ve now tracked it down, whee! Oh, and, I see that you used the word ‘stick’. I should tell you about the time that… well… to make a long story short, everybody involved was very sticky, and it wasn’t with honey neither I’ll tell ya! Wait, why should I make a long story short? Y’all wanna hear about the process by which semen… hey, where are you going? Come back! I’m an individual!!! ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Deschain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@Roland\_Deschain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Deschain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/65 "2005-01-18T10:03:36Z")
Look, I’m not saying that my comment about anal sex wasn’t perhaps over the line. It’s just that (at least in my opinion) it pales in comparison to the one that proceeded it which actually insulted a religion/culture and used outright profanity. I was trying to demonstrate why I wouldn’t consider homosexuality in a humorous manner (basically because I didn’t like the way it would make me smell if for no other reason) rather than respond as many would by saying “how dare you say something like that.” I don’t think that you are being clinically detached, and logical in your analysis of these threads and their inherent opinions. I defy you to read that old thread in GQ about “cooking semen” and tell me that my comments are even in the same rhealm. I’m basically proud of being creepy and weird if that is what you guys think. I do however regret presenting my ideas in a manner which leaves them so open to criticism. In the future I shall endeavor to present my perspectives using language that is less explicit. Futhermore, I won’t even attempt to answer insults in a humorous manner, but will address them directly. To me “creepy” is supporting the on demand destruction of babies in their mother’s womb sometimes as late as the 9th month (dilation and extraction) without even requiring any life or death reason for doing so. However, at least half at this board hold such a position. Please, most of you guys calling me creepy rings with about as much authority as a hooded clan member suing a rabbi for hate speech. I apologize for the over the top comments, but spit upon the mentality which represents your so called “creeped out” sensibilities. Futhermore, how about logically discussing an issue rather than trading cute little comments that add little to the serious discussion of the issue at hand? ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/66 "2005-01-18T10:27:52Z")
I really don’t care that much about your smelly organs or whatever. The basic problem here is the lack of respect you have for your wife. You want her to do a job she doesn’t like, you ignore her wishes about posting all this shit online, you make death threats. Yeah yeah, you don’t really mean it, you’re not violent. Except that you are. You inflict your will on her so she’ll do what you want. Even if you never lay a hand on her, that doesn’t make you any less abusive. Relationships are supposed to be about mutual love, respect, and cooperation. What you have is your own personal dictatorship. That is why I opened this thread, and that is why people are suggesting that your wife leave you. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/67 "2005-01-18T10:42:21Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Ya know, before today I didn’t even know that there was a threadspotting. Thanks to you I’ve now tracked it down, whee! > > Oh, and, I see that you used the word ‘stick’. > I should tell you about the time that… well… to make a long story short, everybody involved was very sticky, and it wasn’t with honey neither I’ll tell ya! Wait, why should I make a long story short? Y’all wanna hear about the process by which semen… hey, where are you going? Come back! I’m an individual!!! Threadspotting is goooood. Try not to spit too many fluids onto your monitor. Also, perhaps you should drink more water. Just not at the computer. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/68 "2005-01-18T11:06:44Z")
> [@Roland Deschain](#): > > and used outright profanity. Profanity is fine in the pit, asshole. (told you I was going to do it) Also, I don’t read that as a slur against all christians, just you. But again, had you simply reported it and gotten a mod involved instead of talking about your shit covered dick… > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > I was trying to demonstrate why I wouldn’t consider homosexuality in a humorous manner (basically because I didn’t like the way it would make me smell if for no other reason) rather than respond as many would by saying “how dare you say something like that.” This is the pit, someone insulted you. You don’t have to take it humorously. You’re a tool and a dweeb if you respond by saying “how dare you tell me to have anal sex?” You’re taking a throw away phrase way, way, way too seriously. > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > I don’t think that you are being clinically detached, and logical in your analysis of these threads and their inherent opinions. I defy you to read that old thread in GQ about “cooking semen” and tell me that my comments are even in the same rhealm. Were you posting in that thread, it’d probably be germane and cool. But that thread is not this thread, and pointing out what the scope of other threads is won’t help you here I’m afraid. > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > I’m basically proud of being creepy and weird if that is what you guys think. Might wanna rethink that. Or at least if you won’t rethink, stop whining about it. > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > I do however regret presenting my ideas in a manner which leaves them so open to criticism. Which ideas? That someone shouldn’t tell you to take it up the ass because you had some anal sex and your penis smelled funny afterwards? > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > In the future I shall endeavor to present my perspectives using language that is less explicit. That’s a start. Then maybe you could cut down on needless personal info too? Oh oh oh! And then maybe you couldn’t bring things up that are completely off topic and have nothing to do with anything? > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > Futhermore, I won’t even attempt to answer insults in a humorous manner, but will address them directly. Humor is good, and can often defeat an oponent. But if you can’t answer things humorously without refrences to your dick being covered in shit? No, humor isn’t for you then. > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > To me “creepy” is supporting the on demand destruction of babies in their mother’s womb sometimes as late as the 9th month (dilation and extraction) without even requiring any life or death reason for doing so. However, at least half at this board hold such a position. See my above comment about things that have nothing to do with anything? How do people supporting partial birth abortions make you less creepy? You see, you’re still whining. Either accept that people find you creepy, or change. But don’t tell me you accept it, but \* it’s just so unfaiiiiiiir! Why is everything alwaaaaaaaaays sooooo unfaiiiiiiiir!?!\* > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > Please, most of you guys calling me creepy rings with about as much authority as a hooded clan member suing a rabbi for hate speech. Wah wah wah, boo hoo, waah! (I thought you were going to accept and be proud of being creepy?) > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > I apologize for the over the top comments, but spit upon the mentality which represents your so called “creeped out” sensibilities. Grow the fuck up! You’re apologizing for your comments being over the top but are offended by those who’re creeped out by their over the top nature? Jeez, what a backhanded apology. > [@Roland Deschain](#): > > Futhermore, how about logically discussing an issue rather than trading cute little comments that add little to the serious discussion of the issue at hand? Nope, humor, as I stated, can often be very effective and a tremendous destructive force. On the other hand… speaking of hands, did I ever tell you what hand I use to masturbate? Or how many cubic inches of semen I… hey… wait! Don’t get creeped out! I’m an individual! No, I’m sorry, only kidding, I’m sorry I was creepy. And I spit on your for being creeped out! No, wait, come back! I was kidding again! I’m an individual! Want to hear about my penis? ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/69 "2005-01-18T12:56:28Z")
Man, it’s like shooting very clueless fish in a very small barrel. Who keep insisting on talking about TMI stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/70 "2005-01-18T15:44:49Z")
> [@Roland Deschain](#): > > I’ve noticed many other people post items that are no more “TMI” than that which I write. I’ve seen lurid sexual details presented without objection on numerous occassions without comment. I can’t help but feel that the standard for “TMI” has some correlation to how people feel about the particular perspective and poster. Consider the following: [ol] [li]Poster A starts a TMI thread, in which Posters B, C, D, E and F all participate. [/li][li]Poster A starts a TMI thread, in which Posters G, H, I and J all participate.[/li][li]Poster C starts a TMI thread, in which Posters A, E, K, L and M all participate.[/li][li]Poster A starts a TMI thread, in which Posters C, L, E, N and O all participate.[/li][/ol] All of the threads and posts are TMI. But there’s one poster who’s creeping everyone the fuck out by sharing just a little too much information in Too Much Information threads. Can you guess who that poster is? ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/71 "2005-01-18T17:03:44Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > We aim to please. > (And oh how different your statement would’ve been if you were drinking Coke) > > And _of course_ I want you to go into great detail about mucus. What, you think I’m some sort of conditioned hive robot who doesn’t let people be individuals? Perish the thought! Viva la snot! You are God! I welcome our snot overlords. achoo ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/72 "2005-01-18T17:12:11Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Consider the following: > [ol] > [li]Poster A starts a TMI thread, in which Posters B, C, D, E and F all participate. [/li][li]Poster A starts a TMI thread, in which Posters G, H, I and J all participate.[/li][li]Poster C starts a TMI thread, in which Posters A, E, K, L and M all participate.[/li][li]Poster A starts a TMI thread, in which Posters C, L, E, N and O all participate.[/li][/ol] > All of the threads and posts are TMI. But there’s one poster who’s creeping everyone the fuck out by sharing just a little too much information in Too Much Information threads. Can you guess who that poster is? Ooh, ooh! It’s Poster B, in the TMI thread, with the feces-covered penis! Do I win? ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/73 "2005-01-18T17:18:14Z")
> [@Roland Deschain](#): > > Look, I’m not saying that my comment about anal sex wasn’t “perhaps” over the line. I wouldn’t consider homosexuality in a humorous manner basically because I didn’t like the way it would make me smell > > I’m basically proud of being creepy Futhermore, I won’t even attempt to answer insults in a humorous manner, (dilation and extraction) but spit upon the mentality creeped out cute little comments that add little Ladies and gentlemen, the Best of Roland! ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Deschain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@Roland\_Deschain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Deschain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/74 "2005-01-18T17:19:25Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > I really don’t care that much about your smelly organs or whatever. The basic problem here is the lack of respect you have for your wife. You want her to do a job she doesn’t like, you ignore her wishes about posting all this shit online, you make death threats. Yeah yeah, you don’t really mean it, you’re not violent. Except that you are. You inflict your will on her so she’ll do what you want. Even if you never lay a hand on her, that doesn’t make you any less abusive. Relationships are supposed to be about mutual love, respect, and cooperation. What you have is your own personal dictatorship. That is why I opened this thread, and that is why people are suggesting that your wife leave you. In answer to your points about my relationship with my wife: 1. It’s true that it was my idea that she go into nursing, and that she initially resisted. However, know that she has her RN she really likes the work. Furthermore, staying in the mortgage business wasn’t really an option since we went essentially broke after my son was born. Plus there is the point that she used to want to go to medical school, and had SAT’s over 1500. Nursing isn’t a bad compromise (especially if she goes on to become a CRNA). 2. No one inflicts their will on my wife least of all me. It’s true that I beg, plead, and annoy to get what I want with varying degrees of success. I may be a control freak, but she is a control freak kicked up a few notches. 3. Yes, I made some statements during arguments that could be interpreted as threats. That was wrong and I deeply regret saying those things. When I mentioned that fact in the OP I thought it was in the context of being remorseful for having done so. I offered that information to provide context for our situation (if I didn’t many people would probably say “leave the bitXX for wanting to go to the club against my will”) Does there always have to be a good guy and a bad guy? Like most relationships there is blaime enough for both of us. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/75 "2005-01-18T18:25:46Z")
> [@Roland Deschain](#): > > In answer to your points about my relationship with my wife: I think this is what you’re not getting - nobody much cares about your relationship with your wife. Why, you ask? Because you insist on being creepy. Great - you’ve decided you’re gonna be a creep, and post disgusting stuff about your wife and sex life despite the fact that she doesnt like it when you do, and then you tell us all about it. Guess what - that doesn’t make people want to support you, and befriend you, it creeps people out. Dial. It. Back. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/76 "2005-01-18T19:08:40Z")
> [@Roland Deschain](#): > > One of the reasons that I started integrating pesonal information into my posts (not only here but elsewhere at places like [www.allnurses.com](http://www.allnurses.com) and [www.nationalmortgagenews.com](http://www.nationalmortgagenews.com)) is because I found people often questioning my sincerity. It amazed me how often people would write something like “you must be putting us on” or “trolling”. In addition, I found people would respond with something like “why would you ask such a crazy question, you can’t be serious.” (note I’ve also experienced this nearly my entire life in school and elsewhere). I don’t mean to keep beating this dead horse, but don’t you think it just a tad eyebrow-raising that you’ve maintained the same demeanor all these years, interacting with thousands upon thousands of people, always encountering the same “why can’t you be like everyone else?” reactions regardless of the focus of the particular environment (SDMB, a nursing message board, a real estate message board, _real life_, etc.), and yet you never actually question whether or not it’s \*you \* who have failed to grasp that the concepts of societal norms, social cues, and common decency have possibly elluded you? Don’t you ever step back and wonder \*why \* all these people spanning all these social realms react to you in the same manner? Don’t you recognize the common element all of these interactions have is _you_? ---
**Author:** ![Maendosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@Maendosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maendosa)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/77 "2005-01-18T20:32:39Z")
Wow. This will teach me never to come home for lunch and attempt to eat while reading in the Pit again. _slides lunch aside_ ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Deschain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@Roland\_Deschain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Deschain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/78 "2005-01-18T21:28:33Z")
Well, I guess I don’t think that it’s everyone else and not me. I’ll admit to being different, and if you prefer being creepy. However, in the end I guess my attitude is so what? I offer my questions and my opinions and people will either think they are worthwhile or they won’t. If you find my perspectives objectionable why not just use the “ignore” function rather than waisting the time and electrons necessary to criticise me? ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/79 "2005-01-18T21:56:39Z")
Jesus H. Christ, man, if you don’t want reactions don’t post your shit. But if you just don’t give a fuck I guess there’s really nothing else to be said. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853/80 "2005-01-18T23:00:08Z")
> [@Roland Deschain](#): > > Well, I guess I don’t think that it’s everyone else and not me. I’ll admit to being different, and if you prefer being creepy. However, in the end I guess my attitude is so what? Just a WAG here, but I strongly suspect that the intersection of the set of creepy dudes with the set of **jerks** is not equivalent to the empty set. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roland-deschain-i-have-some-choice-words-for-you/284853.md?page=5)