# "rolleyes" = disorderly conduct?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 22, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556 "2010-07-22T03:21:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/41 "2010-07-25T01:01:31Z")

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be thankful they don’t have the Picard face palm here.

It’s even more insulting then roll eyes.

face palm is the ultimate F. U. on the boards.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/42 "2010-07-25T01:05:01Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> face palm is the ultimate F. U. on the boards.

I am not familiar with that term.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/43 "2010-07-25T03:54:38Z")

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I think using smilies is akin to quoting verbatim SNL or Monty Python catch phrases and thinking you are being witty.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/44 "2010-07-25T04:01:44Z")

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Do you want to educate me about what face palm means or complain?  
🙂

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/45 "2010-07-25T04:11:20Z")

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face palm - means someone said something so stupid that it’s embarrassing and not worth commenting on.

It’s often used as a single word response. Very similar to roll eyes.  
on some boards this image is an emoticon.  
[http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/EliasWindrider/misc/facepalm1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://s371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/EliasWindrider/misc/%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dfacepalm1.jpg%26sort%3Dascending&h=598&w=751&sz=33&tbnid=9FUHas2H\_3TAzM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dface%2Bpalm&usg=\_\_0ahYF9Kt8zWz-o7Z2N\_X0wZzEp8=&sa=X&ei=FblLTKagGsL78AawnaUy&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAg](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/EliasWindrider/misc/facepalm1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://s371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/EliasWindrider/misc/%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dfacepalm1.jpg%26sort%3Dascending&h=598&w=751&sz=33&tbnid=9FUHas2H_3TAzM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dface%2Bpalm&usg=__0ahYF9Kt8zWz-o7Z2N_X0wZzEp8=&sa=X&ei=FblLTKagGsL78AawnaUy&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAg)

People object to it’s use because it adds nothing to the debate. It’s like telling someone they are an idiot and hanging up the phone.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/46 "2010-07-25T04:47:59Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> > [@Koxinga](#):
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> > If you rolled your eyes at a judge, would she cite you for contempt?
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> Pre-UCMJ, “silent contempt” was an offense in the military subject to non-judicial punishment…

“Dumb Insolence” is the UK equivalent.  
I was always good at that.

As we get older, we do tend to forget that we knew absolutely everything about life when we were sixteen.

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**Author:** ![Properties\_of\_Iron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7cd45c/32.png) [@Properties\_of\_Iron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Properties_of_Iron)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/47 "2010-07-25T06:11:23Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> > [@Properties\_of\_Iron](#):
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> > :rolleyes: I knew as soon as I saw this that someone would do this. Grow up. :rolleyes:
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> It encapsulated my feeling’s about the OP’s item perfectly. I’m conveying disdain and scorn, but not toward anyone here.
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> If use of the rolleyes emoticon was the most mean-spirited thing going on in SDMB… well, it would be a whole different place.

If it’s any consolation, I was being satirical when I wrote that. I thought it would be more obvious than it was looking back on it now.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/48 "2010-07-25T06:18:32Z")

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> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> A number of people on the SDMB don’t like the rolleyes smiley. One poster said it “enraged” him.

In the real world making that expression at someone is pretty rude. While it doesn’t enrage me when someone uses it here it doesn’t exactly endear them to me when they use it in reply to something I wrote. (Yeah, invitation for everyone to use it here in this thread. Go ahead.)

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> Now Elmhurst, IL, a nearby Chicago suburb, wants to arrest people who make the physical gesture. [Chicago Tribune - Chicago News, Sports, Weather, Business & Things to Do](http://triblocal.com/Elmhurst/detail/197722.html)

In spite of what I just typed there are times when rolling your eyes and sighing are appropriate responses. Honestly, from the article it looks like the eye roller in question is on the opposite side of some council members and they just wanted a reason to eject her.

> [@1st linked article](#):
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> Under state law, disorderly conduct is “an act in such unreasonable manner as to alarm or disturb another, or to provoke a breach of the peace.”

I imagine it would have to be one hell of an eye roll/sigh combo to meet the requirements of disorderly conduct.

Odesio

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/49 "2010-07-25T09:27:14Z")

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I’m a big fan of the French gesture where one pulls their lower eyelid down with their index finger. “I see through you.”

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/50 "2010-07-25T16:41:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> As we get older, we do tend to forget that we knew absolutely everything about life when we were sixteen.

I’ve spent a lot of time and energy trying to forget my attitudes and actions when I was 16.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rolleyes-disorderly-conduct/547556/51 "2010-07-25T17:12:20Z")

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> [@Darth\_Nader](#):
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> I’m a big fan of the French gesture where one pulls their lower eyelid down with their index finger. “I see through you.”

I remember a scene in the sci-fi classic Robot Jox where Achilles (the last surviving member on an older team of American jox) gave this gesture to Alexander (the last surviving member of the Russian team) during some meeting. Alexander (in classic 80’s hollywood Russian style) proceeded to try and tear his way across the room like an angry bull, with everybody holding him back.

At the time, I figured the insult was that Achilles seemed to do the gesture with his middle finger. Maybe they were going for an added subtle insult gesture on top of the obvious one?

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