# Romance & Cigarettes **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 25, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188 "2008-06-25T15:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/1 "2008-06-25T15:12:13Z")
[Romance & Cigarettes](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368222/) I searched and found no threads on this movie. Has anyone seen it? Written and directed by [John Turturro](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001806/), and produced by the Coens. It stars James Gandolfini, Susan Sarandon, Kate Winslet, and Steve Buscemi. It also has Christopher Walken, Eddie Izzard, and Amy Sedaris. Wow. Oh, and it is a musical. hehe. After trying to watch Sweeney Todd several times (no success there), I was reluctant to watch another musical, but I loved this movie. Anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/2 "2008-06-25T15:14:40Z")
Oh, by the way, I also loved [Coffee and Cigarettes](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379217/). Maybe I need to concentrate on cigarette movies. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/3 "2008-06-25T17:46:56Z")
Unwatchably bad. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/4 "2008-06-25T17:54:08Z")
No, no, no!!! Say it aint so!!! Isnā€™t it cool that John Turturro directs his wife and son (in bit parts)? Along with his cousin Aida Turturro, who played Janice on _The Sopranos_. And that James Gandolfini isnā€™t a half bad singer? Or that the score is great? Now, Iā€™d agree that Sweeney Todd was unwatchable, but come on. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/5 "2008-06-25T18:01:29Z")
I missed it when it was playing in the theater because a) it was playing at one of my two most hated movie theaters, but b) I didnā€™t have the money at the time anyway. I was sure I would love it, and Iā€™m still sure. Lissenerā€™s opinion makes me even more sure. I have to buy the DVD. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/6 "2008-06-25T18:16:55Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] I have to buy the DVD. [/QUOTE] I encourage the purchase. After watching it last night, I bought it on [Amazon](http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Romance+%26+Cigarettes&x=0&y=0) Did I mention that Steve Buscemi has a part? Oh, I did. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/7 "2008-06-25T18:34:48Z")
[QUOTE=vetbridge] I encourage the purchase. After watching it last night, I bought it on [Amazon](http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Romance+%26+Cigarettes&x=0&y=0) [/QUOTE] Hey, thanks for the link. I just bought a copy. Two clarifications: One reason why I was pretty sure Iā€™d love it is because Iā€™m a total sucker for odd musicals, like **Moulin Rouge!** , **Idlewild** and **Marie Antoinette** (not a musical as such, but I think it fits well with the others). Plus itā€™s got Kate Winslet as a slutty-looking waitress with flaming red hair! Right up my alley. I have absolute trust in lissenerā€™s taste when he likes something, but near zero when he doesnā€™t, which is just like the ā€œtrust relationshipā€ I have with Roger Ebert. Iā€™ll watch just about anything that Ebert (and lissener) recommends, because they have good taste and are knowledgeable about film, but will judge for myself if they ā€œhave problemsā€ with something. Unless itā€™s something I have no interest in seeing anyway, then it doesnā€™t matter one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/8 "2008-06-25T19:26:24Z")
Iā€™ll be interested in your reaction, **Eq**. In my opinion itā€™s excruciatingly emabarrassing, every single moment of it; I wanted to crawl under the couch. Frankly, Iā€™m surprised the entire cast didnā€™t commit suicide the night of the premiere. But I felt the same way about _Across the Universe_, which you loved. (I loved _Moulin Rouge_ and _Marie Antoinette_, but \*Idlewild \*was named my biggest disappointment of 2007.) ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/9 "2008-06-26T14:56:07Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] Iā€™ll be interested in your reaction, **Eq**. In my opinion itā€™s excruciatingly emabarrassing, every single moment of it; I wanted to crawl under the couch. Frankly, Iā€™m surprised the entire cast didnā€™t commit suicide the night of the premiere. But I felt the same way about _Across the Universe_, which you loved. (I loved _Moulin Rouge_ and _Marie Antoinette_, but \*Idlewild \*was named my biggest disappointment of 2007.) [/QUOTE] Iā€™ll be interested in your reaction as well. It is different, to be sure, in a campy way. I have not seen Idlewild (and had not planned on it), but now I will have to give it a go. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/10 "2008-06-26T17:50:05Z")
Iā€™ll let you guys know what I think, but it might be a couple of weeks. [QUOTE=lissener] Iā€™ll be interested in your reaction, **Eq**. In my opinion itā€™s excruciatingly emabarrassing, every single moment of it; I wanted to crawl under the couch. Frankly, Iā€™m surprised the entire cast didnā€™t commit suicide the night of the premiere. But I felt the same way about _Across the Universe_, which you loved. [/QUOTE] :smack: :smack: :smack: How could I have forgotten to mention **Across The Universe** with those others?! Yes, youā€™re right, I did love it. Adored it. So yeah, if you had the same feeling about it that you did R&C, Iā€™m looking VERY forward to R&C. [QUOTE=vetbridge] 'll be interested in your reaction as well. It is different, to be sure, in a campy way. I have not seen Idlewild (and had not planned on it), but now I will have to give it a go. [/QUOTE] [Hereā€™s the trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BarBOirgd8) and if youā€™re like me and squeeeeeel with joy and delight watching it (I gasped and bounced with glee in my theater seat the first time I saw the preview at the movies), then definitely check out the whole movie. If it makes you scratch your head and go ā€œwhat the fuuuck?ā€ then, well, maybe not. If you like it, also watch the more sedate, but brilliant, **Cotton Club**. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/11 "2008-06-26T17:56:55Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] [Hereā€™s the trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BarBOirgd8) and if youā€™re like me and squeeeeeel with joy and delight watching it, then definitely check out the whole movie. If it makes you scratch your head and go ā€œwhat the fuuuck?ā€ then, well, maybe not. [/QUOTE] hehe. Thanks. [It](http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=idlewild&x=16&y=21) is on the way to my office now! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/12 "2008-06-27T00:00:25Z")
I saw Romance and Cigarettes recently and quite enjoyed it. If you are a Netflix subscriber it is on the instant watch section. adhemar ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romance-cigarettes/454188/13 "2008-06-27T00:04:29Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] [Hereā€™s the trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BarBOirgd8) and if youā€™re like me and squeeeeeel with joy and delight watching it (I gasped and bounced with glee in my theater seat the first time I saw the preview at the movies), then definitely check out the whole movie. If it makes you scratch your head and go ā€œwhat the fuuuck?ā€ then, well, maybe not. [/QUOTE] FWIW, I squealed at delight when I saw the trailer; the movie was still a disappointing mess.