# Rome 9/11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 12, 2005, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216 "2005-09-12T06:00:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Poonther](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Poonther](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poonther)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/21 "2005-09-12T20:58:58Z")

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Who cares about the plot lines and historical accuracy, Rome has half naked sweaty men and some of them are in leather harnesses. That’s all the plot I need! 🙂

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**Author:** ![YPOD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@YPOD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YPOD)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/22 "2005-09-12T21:07:09Z")

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I have to give them extra points for accuracy in one area - they had real live oxen pulling that cart. When was the last time you saw oxen in any movie or TV show?

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**Author:** ![deadeyesdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@deadeyesdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deadeyesdad)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/23 "2005-09-12T22:08:39Z")

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The obscene Latin graffiti was a nice touch as well, but did anyone else catch all of it? I saw _Cinaed…_ on the door, which was probably the beginning of _cinaedus_, (roughly, “cocksucker”) _Atia Amat Omnia_…something and _Atia fellat_…something. (“Atia loves all [something].” and “Atia sucks [something]” but I couldn’t see what she loves and sucks).

I am watching in slo-mo now. It is “CINAED”. “ATIA AMAT (OMAIES or OMNES)” under that is scribles. .“ATIA FELLAT(AATT or AATI)”.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/24 "2005-09-12T22:25:39Z")

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> [@deadeyesdad](#):
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> The obscene Latin graffiti was a nice touch as well, but did anyone else catch all of it? I saw _Cinaed…_ on the door, which was probably the beginning of _cinaedus_, (roughly, “cocksucker”) _Atia Amat Omnia_…something and _Atia fellat_…something. (“Atia loves all [something].” and “Atia sucks [something]” but I couldn’t see what she loves and sucks).
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> I am watching in slo-mo now. It is “CINAED”. “ATIA AMAT (OMAIES or OMNES)” under that is scribles. .“ATIA FELLAT(AATT or AATI)”.

CINAEDUS would be basically “cocksucker” (to be more exact, it’s someone who allows himself to be used as a passive sexual vessel (usually orally). I think it usually referred to _males_ , though, but perhaps CINAED without the masculine ending (but without a feminine ending either, apparently) could be applied to women.

That would be OMNES in the “ATIA AMAT…” part “Atia loves all…” FELLAT is from FELLO, “to suck.” So that part means “Atia sucks…”

I have no idea what the AATT means. I think it must be an abbreviation that I’m unfamilar with. Either that or it’s an unrelated bit of scribbling. I wasn’t able to make out what was directly beneath ATIA AMAT OMNES but it wouldn’t suprise me if it said something like VIRI (“men”) and that “Atia loves…” and “Atia sucks…” were both intended to be read with “all men.”

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/25 "2005-09-13T00:10:55Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I have no idea what the AATT means. I think it must be an abbreviation that I’m unfamilar with.

It stands for the American Association of Teachers of Turkish languages. It’s meant to suggest that Atia is a cunning linguist.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/26 "2005-09-13T00:54:55Z")

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[ashamed]I saw this thread title and thought that the History Channel had created their own version of Comedy Central’s Reno 911…[/ashamed]

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/27 "2005-09-13T01:27:54Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> That would be OMNES in the “ATIA AMAT…” part “Atia loves all…” FELLAT is from FELLO, “to suck.” So that part means “Atia sucks…”

It says, “Romans go home!”

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**Author:** ![Torgo\_ate\_my\_hamster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@Torgo\_ate\_my\_hamster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torgo_ate_my_hamster)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/28 "2005-09-13T01:39:59Z")

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But is it spelled and conjugated correctly?

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/29 "2005-09-13T12:23:34Z")

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It is accurate that most of the characters have an Engligh accent? I know the show is produced in association with the BBC, but was that the typical accent for Rome in that era?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/30 "2005-09-13T13:39:01Z")

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They spoke Latin. The English language didn’t exist yet, much less English accents. The accents are intended to be analogous in showing how people from different classes and regions have different manners of speech. Also, the actors are mostly British.

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**Author:** ![deadeyesdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@deadeyesdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deadeyesdad)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/31 "2005-09-13T15:23:54Z")

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No it is definitly not “ROMANES EUNT DOMUS or ROMANI ITE DOMUN”

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/32 "2005-09-13T16:31:02Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> They spoke Latin. **The English language didn’t exist yet, much less English accents**. The accents are intended to be analogous in showing how people from different classes and regions have different manners of speech. Also, the actors are mostly British.

:smack: Of course it didn’t. Well now that was a dumb question.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/33 "2005-09-13T16:41:42Z")

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I gotta say that Niobe is the hottest of the Roman women. If you check her bio, the writers cleverly made her a “A peasant princess from a large and influential Roman clan”. I was wondering why her accent wasn’t as “low class” as her neighbors’. She does doll up pretty nicely, too. I wonder when we get to see her like [this](http://www.hbo.com/rome/cast/character/niobe.html).

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/34 "2005-09-13T17:30:48Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> I gotta say that Niobe is the hottest of the Roman women. If you check her bio, the writers cleverly made her a “A peasant princess from a large and influential Roman clan”. I was wondering why her accent wasn’t as “low class” as her neighbors’. She does doll up pretty nicely, too. I wonder when we get to see her like [this](http://www.hbo.com/rome/cast/character/niobe.html).

Maybe at her daughter’s wedding?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/35 "2005-09-13T17:38:51Z")

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Good guess!!

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/36 "2005-09-13T18:53:46Z")

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If anyone’s interested, here’s a spoiler from an upcoming episode.

A naked Mark Antony orders two topless women to fight each other with swords. When one is injured he comes to a rescue by licking blood off her chest.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/37 "2005-09-14T16:58:15Z")

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> [@Captain Amazing](#):
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> Hinted by Plutarch, you mean? Maybe, but he did inherit the name and the property of the older Caepio, so he must have recognized him as his son. And, I checked…according to Plutarch, he was dead at that point…from his Lives:

Ah, thanks, I couldn’t remember if that had happened yet or not.

There’s an interesting implication in _Masters of Rome_\*, that Servilia had her servant poison Caepio, so Brutus would inherit his fortune and so it would hurt Cato, who loved his brother to distraction.

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**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/38 "2005-09-14T18:44:16Z")

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If you ask me, Niobe looks MUCH hotter right now than she does in the HBO website pic.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/39 "2005-09-14T23:26:42Z")

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One of the funniest moments was during Atia’s wonderful party, throngs are rioting in the street and trying to smash down the front doors and Atia blithely turns to her guests and says, “you may spend the night here if you wish…”

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-9-11/321216/40 "2005-09-15T12:44:28Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> One of the funniest moments was during Atia’s wonderful party, throngs are rioting in the street and trying to smash down the front doors and Atia blithely turns to her guests and says, “you may spend the night here if you wish…”

That made me laugh. What are they going to do? Leave and walk right through the murderous crowd outside the front door?

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