# Rome IV KAL. MART. MMDCCLX A.U.C (spoilers)

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**Created:** [March 12, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-iv-kal-mart-mmdcclx-a-u-c-spoilers/395541 "2007-03-12T01:02:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-iv-kal-mart-mmdcclx-a-u-c-spoilers/395541/41 "2007-03-12T17:56:06Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
How can he be both?  
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Caligula was the son of Germanicus and Vispania Agrippina. Vispania Aggripina was the daughter of Agrippa and Julia. Julia was Augustus’s daughter. So, Augustus is Caligula’s great-grandfather maternally.

Now, Germanicus (Caligula’s father) was the son of Nero Claudius Drusus and Antonia. Nero Claudius Drusus was the son of Livia Drusilla by her first husband, and is Augustus’s step-son. So, Augustus is Caligula’s step-great grandfather paternally.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-iv-kal-mart-mmdcclx-a-u-c-spoilers/395541/42 "2007-03-12T19:05:31Z")

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Got it. I think. Oy.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-iv-kal-mart-mmdcclx-a-u-c-spoilers/395541/43 "2007-03-12T19:25:24Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
Got it. I think. Oy.  
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Try looking up those family trees that were provided for me earlier in the thread.

Hoo boy!

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-iv-kal-mart-mmdcclx-a-u-c-spoilers/395541/44 "2007-03-12T20:40:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Omniscient]  
Don’t bother. Our friend **alphaboi** botched it anyways…The full correct date would be “a.d. V Id. Mart. MMDCCLX A.U.C”.  
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Hey, it’s been several lifetimes since I’ve used that calender 😛 . I keep forgeting that subtractice numerals (IV in lieu of IIII) weren’t used 'till the Middle Ages. And the Romans didn’t use “A.U.C” that much either; they named the year for the 2 Consuls.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-iv-kal-mart-mmdcclx-a-u-c-spoilers/395541/45 "2007-03-12T21:40:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
It’s from Suetonius, but I got the wife wrong. He said that about his first wife, Clodia (who was a stepdaughter of Antony’s), not about Scribonia. My mistake.  
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:o I knew I shouldn’t have skimmed that.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rome-iv-kal-mart-mmdcclx-a-u-c-spoilers/395541/46 "2007-03-12T21:47:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
It’s from Suetonius, but I got the wife wrong. He said that about his first wife, Clodia (who was a stepdaughter of Antony’s), not about Scribonia. My mistake.  
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I thought he divorced Clodia because he found her mother annoying.

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