# Romney donor at Hamptons fundraiser feels sympathy for the common people. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719 "2012-07-09T19:08:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/81 "2012-07-10T15:14:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by EddyTeddyFreddy > > Oh, I understand; having been touching-close to a few horses in that class, having watched them do their thing, oh, my – well, have you ever seen a world-class athlete in action, up close? Breath-taking, innit? > > Well, not one who ate carrots whole. Anyway, we are kicking you out of the 99% club. See how your horses like it in Aspen, rich lady! 😃 ☹ But then what’m I gonna do with this muck-encrusted pitchfork and all the manure I’ve been cleaning up? The wheelbarrow is overflowing! - looks around \* Oh, hey, I’m getting some ideas… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/82 "2012-07-10T15:21:28Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > If the story in the OP is true (and I did express some skepticism in the OP) then this lady has an obnoxious attitude. Can anyone really deny that? Not obfuscate it. Not attempt to create an equivalence with someone else. Not use rhetorical hand waving. Deny it. Can you? You found an obnoxious lady on the internet. Congrats. Would you like a cookie? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/83 "2012-07-10T15:23:03Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You found an obnoxious lady on the internet. Congrats. Would you like a cookie? Yes I would. Do you have any chocolate chip? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/84 "2012-07-10T15:23:28Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Why? I don’t see how those things would help advance the image at all. As it is, the writer clearly conveyed that this was a person sitting in a very expensive vehicle with special access to a fairly exclusive spot who is asserting that Romney needs to do a better job connecting with the common people. Good, objective reporting doesn’t try to “advance an image”. The lady is either correct or not, and what type of car she drives doesn’t help us understand that. It would be great writing for the Bill Maher show. The LA Times? Not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/85 "2012-07-10T15:27:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You found an obnoxious lady on the internet. Congrats. Would you like a cookie? No, he’d like to make a point. Which he’s done. Looks like he found the obnoxiousl lady’s mate on the internet while he was at though, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/86 "2012-07-10T15:27:19Z")
The difference between what this woman said and what some liberals say is that this woman is equating intelligence with their profession and their “lesser” status as a common person, we liberals think many people are stupid because of their actions, i.e. voting Republican. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/87 "2012-07-10T15:34:21Z")
I don’t see the complaint with the reporting. The woman was bitching because the common people can’t connect with Romney. So it’s relevant to establish whether the woman was common herself- the vehicle and its stickers establish quite clearly that she is not. So you have a rich person going to a Romney rally whining about the way that the great unwashed vote. If that isn’t fair game for ridicule, I can’t imagine what is. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/88 "2012-07-10T15:35:09Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Beach permits were mentioned so the reader would know that this NYC couple \*weekends \*at the Hamptoms. Thank God for that. If I didn’t know they weekended at the Hamptons then the rest of the story would not have made any sense. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/89 "2012-07-10T15:38:10Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Good, objective reporting doesn’t try to “advance an image”. The lady is either correct or not, and what type of car she drives doesn’t help us understand that. Nonsense, **John Mace** , and you know it. The most memorable reporting conveys an image to the reader while also conveying the essential information for the story being written. Why would they have courtroom sketch artists if they didn’t think it was helpful to have an image? Was the picture of the Vietnamese girl running naked down the road “objective reporting”? If this story had just included a picture of this woman sitting in a Range Rover with East Hampton beach permits on the window, would you object? Finally, you know very well that the point is not whether this woman is correct or not as to her assertion that Mitt Romney needs to connect better with common people. How could that be a factual assertion? It’s an opinion. This seems like odd nitpickery designed to, I don’t know, distract? Why? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/90 "2012-07-10T15:38:53Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I don’t see the complaint with the reporting. The woman was bitching because the common people can’t connect with Romney. So it’s relevant to establish whether the woman was common herself- the vehicle and its stickers establish quite clearly that she is not. > > So you have a rich person going to a Romney rally whining about the way that the great unwashed vote. If that isn’t fair game for ridicule, I can’t imagine what is. It wasn’t a Romney rally. It was a fundraiser. What kind of people do you expect to find at a fund raiser, of either party? But I didn’t realize objective reporting consisting of ridicule. Glad you cleared that up. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/91 "2012-07-10T15:44:48Z")
I see her point: when there’s more brioche for the aristocrats, there are more pans left in the alley behind the kitchen for the poor to scrape the crumbs out of. It makes perfect economic sense. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/92 "2012-07-10T15:47:00Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Nonsense, **John Mace** , and you know it. The most memorable reporting conveys an image to the reader while also conveying the essential information for the story being written. > > Why would they have courtroom sketch artists if they didn’t think it was helpful to have an image? Was the picture of the Vietnamese girl running naked down the road “objective reporting”? If this story had just included a picture of this woman sitting in a Range Rover with East Hampton beach permits on the window, would you object? > > Finally, you know very well that the point is not whether this woman is correct or not as to her assertion that Mitt Romney needs to connect better with common people. How could that be a factual assertion? It’s an opinion. Not really, but you raise a good point. Photo journalism, of the type you describe, is quite a different kettle of fish. It’s meant to evoke a strong emotional response. It’s commentary, not reporting. Had there been a photo of the woman’s car, so what? Had the journalist zoomed in on the beach stickers and the car’s logo, that would have been a different story. Why doesn’t the reporter come out and say that the lady is a hypocrite? Would that be within the bounds of objective reporting? If not, why not? > [@](#): > > This seems like odd nitpickery designed to, I don’t know, distract? Why? I made a simple observation. If you don’t want it to distract from this terribly important story, then don’t. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/93 "2012-07-10T15:51:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It wasn’t a Romney rally. It was a fundraiser. What kind of people do you expect to find at a fund raiser, of either party? But I didn’t realize objective reporting consisting of ridicule. Glad you cleared that up. The reporter wasn’t ridiculing, she just gave us the facts so that we could ridicule. Anything else I can help you understand? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/94 "2012-07-10T15:53:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It wasn’t a Romney rally. It was a fundraiser. What kind of people do you expect to find at a fund raiser, of either party? But I didn’t realize objective reporting consisting of ridicule. Glad you cleared that up. I was at an Obama fundraiser. Although there wwere people with a lot of money there, I didn’t notice any assholes in attendance. We spent quite a bit of time waiting around, etc., i got a flavor of the people in attendance. Romney is an asshole, and so are his supporters. That’s the point of the article. if we all understood the point, I’d call it good reporting. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/95 "2012-07-10T15:56:35Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Romney is an asshole, and so are his supporters. Being a Republican doesn’t make you an asshole, but being an asshole does make you Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/96 "2012-07-10T16:27:06Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You found an obnoxious lady on the internet. Congrats. Would you like a cookie? I’d like a cookie too. I’ve just spotted an obnoxious person _in this very thread_. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/97 "2012-07-10T16:28:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’d like a cookie too. I’ve just spotted an obnoxious person _in this very thread_. I’m still waiting for mine. I don’t think he actually has any. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/98 "2012-07-10T16:31:50Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > If the story in the OP is true (and I did express some skepticism in the OP) then this lady has an obnoxious attitude. Can anyone really deny that? Not obfuscate it. Not attempt to create an equivalence with someone else. Not use rhetorical hand waving. Deny it. Can you? Okay. The lady did not have an obnoxious attitude. You didn’t say I had to tell the truth. ---
**Author:** ![2ManyTacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@2ManyTacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ManyTacos)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/99 "2012-07-10T16:45:53Z")
I’m just going to go out and say it: The smug arrogance that that woman displayed is **only** found within the Republican party. You don’t like it, tough, but this kind of stuff is NOT found on the political left, period. These are the types of people that Romney hangs out with, and they’re the ones with whom he identifies. That fact right there is exactly why it would be sheer and utter stupidity for any poor or middle class person to vote Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719/100 "2012-07-10T17:13:23Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I’m still waiting for mine. I don’t think he actually has any. ☹ Be patient, commoner. The Man will be here on Thursday with cookies (and for light dusting). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-donor-at-hamptons-fundraiser-feels-sympathy-for-the-common-people/627719.md?page=6)