# Romney may be Secretary of State

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 19, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465 "2016-11-19T20:07:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/21 "2016-11-19T21:09:42Z")

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John Bolton and Newt Gingrich were probably too hardline.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/22 "2016-11-19T21:30:42Z")

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I wonder how much of this consideration is due to the very real possibility that Trump’s preferred choices wouldn’t make it through a confirmation hearing. I’ve heard that Giuliani has been paid money to lobby on behalf of foreign governments. Maybe that sort of entanglement is viewed as too toxic, even for a Republican senate.

Or, this meeting is just an overture to make nice with the Republican mainstream. Nothing will come of it, but in Trump’s mind a golf outing constitutes compromise with his critics.

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/23 "2016-11-19T21:43:09Z")

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Trump isn’t gonna pick Romney for anything, unless he’s told to do so.

Romney is far more handsome & since he was a candidate for president, the American people may look more to Romney than Trump (besides the alt-right).

If anything, there’s probably more to this than we’re being told.

Just off names…President Romney sounds more legitimate.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/24 "2016-11-19T21:50:26Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Or, this meeting is just an overture to make nice with the Republican mainstream. Nothing will come of it, but in Trump’s mind a golf outing constitutes compromise with his critics.

My guess would be somewhere between this, and the previous suggestions that he’s just toying with Romney out of vindictiveness.

Either way, the thread title should be “Romney will NOT be secretary of State”. But then again, I’ve been surprised by a lot of things these past few months. The thing about a loose cannon is, you can be sure it will bounce its way downhill in the long term and eventually plunge overboard after smashing a lot of stuff, but there’s no telling what it will do on its way.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/25 "2016-11-19T21:50:43Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> But far less satisfying - Trump could never pass up the opportunity to make a guy who had annoyed him grovel before him, fetch his McDonald’s orders, and so forth.

Except I doubt Christie annoyed Trump that much since Christie’s only real criticism of Trump during the primaries was that he was a showman without much substance or experience. This was pretty mild even in comparison to the overall mild criticism Trump faced from others outisde of Ted Cruz. Trump certainly probably enjoyed dominating a sitting governor and having him serve in a lackey role, but given his reliance on other primary candidates as surrogates like Ben Carson and prominant spokespeople like Guliani and Gingrinch, it seems more like he just viewed Christie as expenable and easily replaceable, not that he was trashing him.

If he intended to publicly cashier Christie, then it seemed more likely that he would release a public statement justifying the move by citing the recent convictions as causing doubt about Christie’s integrity, honesty, or character. After all, Trump himself said that Christie knew about the lane closures when Christie was still in the race. But the convictions seemed to have given Kushner, Bannon, or others the opening to get rid of Christie at an opportune moment.

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/26 "2016-11-19T21:53:36Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Or, this meeting is just an overture to make nice with the Republican mainstream. Nothing will come of it, but in Trump’s mind a golf outing constitutes compromise with his critics.

Perhaps, I just saw a photograph of a few years back: Bill Clinton, Donald, Giuliani and Bloomberg playing golf, good friends: it’s a great healer.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/27 "2016-11-19T21:55:45Z")

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Romney says the meeting went great.

[https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/amp/donald-trump-meets-rival-mitt-romney-he-races-fill-cabinet-n686241?client=ms-android-motorola](https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/amp/donald-trump-meets-rival-mitt-romney-he-races-fill-cabinet-n686241?client=ms-android-motorola)

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> Romney, also addressing the press, added that “we had a far-reaching conversation with regards to the various theaters in the world where there are interests of the U.S.”
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> He said it was a “very thorough and in-depth discussion in the time we had and appreciate the chance to speak with the president-elect and look forward to the coming administration.”

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/28 "2016-11-19T22:04:44Z")

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Judging by the calibre of the people Trump has been gathering, far to his right and public menaces every one, I’m hoping for a bloodbath planned, such as luring them to a massive feast on the bed of a drained lake, and then called away, he _personally_ releases the Seagates as did Dahut, laughing fiendishly; or the penthouse helicopter sequence in Godfather III.  
Either way he and we can collude on its being terrorists to blame.

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/29 "2016-11-19T22:06:32Z")

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“Far-reaching” sounds somewhat unconventional.

Maybe it meant, there’s a chance he’ll become president.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/30 "2016-11-19T22:19:23Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> My guess would be somewhere between this, and the previous suggestions that he’s just toying with Romney out of vindictiveness.  
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That’s the way I see it, too: Trump will be enjoying today’s news-coverage tone of _'Trump deserves great credit for this attempt to reach out to the mainstream GOP_,’ and at the very same time will have enjoyed his power to summon Romney and let Romney kiss the ring.

If he does offer Romney the job it will be in order to, some days later, gleefully pull the rug out and watch Romney’s public humiliation. Then Trump will offer the job to some clearly-unqualified person (his barber, perhaps, or Rudy Giuliani) to _really_ rub it in Romney’s face.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/31 "2016-11-19T22:32:10Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> That’s the way I see it, too: Trump will be enjoying today’s news-coverage tone of _'Trump deserves great credit for this attempt to reach out to the mainstream GOP_,’ and at the very same time will have enjoyed his power to summon Romney and let Romney kiss the ring.
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> If he does offer Romney the job it will be in order to, some days later, gleefully pull the rug out and watch Romney’s public humiliation. Then Trump will offer the job to some clearly-unqualified person (his barber, perhaps, or Rudy Giuliani) to _really_ rub it in Romney’s face.

His barber isn’t even qualified to cut hair.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/32 "2016-11-19T22:51:52Z")

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I can’t help but think of this in terms of the latest South Park and the only cure for President Elect Garrison’s very localized dry skin, saliva.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/33 "2016-11-19T23:01:42Z")

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Not going to happen.

I’m not sure what either Trump or Romney are up to with this but Romney at State isn’t realistic. Flynn and Bannon would be working overtime to undermine anything he tried to accomplish. I would expect Romney realizes that.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/34 "2016-11-19T23:11:34Z")

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At this point he would be the best person in his cabinet.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/35 "2016-11-19T23:13:47Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I don’t think Romney is evil, so this is a step up from the other names that have been floated.

Yes. Not a Romney fan, but it could have been much worse.

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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/36 "2016-11-19T23:26:40Z")

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It will be the nightmare scenario, hyperhawk Bolton. I wish I could feel confident he wouldn’t get past Congressional review, but I’m not.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/37 "2016-11-19T23:52:47Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> His barber isn’t even qualified to cut hair.

Good at draping, though.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/38 "2016-11-20T00:15:25Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It seems like only four years ago that Romney getting into power was a _worst_-case scenario. Now it’s something to be hoped for.

Worst case between the two options of him and Obama? Sure.

Something to be hoped for given who Trump’s other picks might be? Sure.

Those are not hypocritical or contradictory in the slightest.

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/39 "2016-11-20T00:43:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Wonderful. Another ammoral businessman in government.
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> Nice how he described Trump as a conman but now that Trump’s in power, he’ll help throw the country under the bus.

I think you’d be hard pressed to find a more moral businessman but I guess anyone with an R in front of his name is bad right?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-may-be-secretary-of-state/772465/40 "2016-11-20T00:49:39Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> I think you’d be hard pressed to find a more moral businessman but I guess anyone with an R in front of his name is bad right?

Read post 5 and tell me this is someone concerned about jobs in the States.

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