# Romney: No New Abortion Legislation If Elected

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 10, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277 "2012-10-10T02:57:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/21 "2012-10-10T11:13:52Z")

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“These are my principles, and if you don’t like them, I have others!”

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/22 "2012-10-10T11:39:38Z")

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There is only one thing that Romney stands for and that is that he should be president. If he takes both sides of every issue, then there’s a good chance that every person will hear the side he wants to hear.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/23 "2012-10-10T11:41:21Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Eh, if you don’t like Romney’s position on an issue, just wait a day or two and he’ll have a new one.

It’s like the blind men and the elephant, except we’re not blind and the elephant is the one trying to confuse us.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/24 "2012-10-10T14:21:49Z")

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I keep waiting for Romney to announce, “If elected, I will stop being Mormon AND I’ll eat my hat!”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/25 "2012-10-10T14:46:21Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> [http://news.yahoo.com/romney-promises-no-abortion-legislation-004508435–election.html](http://news.yahoo.com/romney-promises-no-abortion-legislation-004508435--election.html)
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> Unfortunate news, and I doubt it will do Governor Romney much political good either.

Note that he said _legislation_. He might as well say he doesn’t plan to invade Baltimore; abortion restrictions at the federal level are as tight as SCOTUS will allow. He didn’t say anything inconsistent with his previous position, which is that he’d press the Supreme Court to repeal Roe.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/26 "2012-10-10T15:05:51Z")

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Of course if you got a different impression from his remarks - say that he’s a moderate on abortion - why, goodness, Gov. Romney certainly can’t be held responsible for that! But he appreciates your support.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/27 "2012-10-10T15:33:18Z")

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He’s a sick freak who’ll say anything — _anything_ — to attain power.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/28 "2012-10-10T17:04:32Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> A liberal commenter elsewhere believes that Romney’s debate performance has bought him permission to tack to the center as much as he wants without his base rebelling. I wonder if this is part of it, or if such is even true…

He thinks votes are like dollars, once you’ve earned it - it’s yours to keep. So, to him, sucking up to the Tea Party Republicans during the primaries got their votes, now he just needs to add the moderates and voila! He doesn’t get that he could alienate and diminish votes in one block by pursuing a different block.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/29 "2012-10-10T19:33:24Z")

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Actually, Romney is just saying what we all know to be true: there isn’t much the federal government can do on abortion.

When was the last controversial abortion legislation passed by Congress? The only three laws I can think of were uncontroversial: the Partial Birth ban, the Born Alive act, and the Hyde rule. Republicans have controlled Congress for many years in the last couple of decades. If they didn’t pass controversial restrictions then they aren’t about to now.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/30 "2012-10-10T19:34:35Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> He’s a sick freak who’ll say anything — _anything_ — to attain power.

Which one? I seem to recall a candidate who promised a net spending cut at a debate. How’d that work out?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/31 "2012-10-10T19:37:28Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Actually, Romney is just saying what we all know to be true: there isn’t much the federal government can do on abortion.

The actual quote:

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> “There’s no legislation with regards to abortion that I’m familiar with that would become part of my agenda.”

He says nothing even close to your dicey interpretation of his words.

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/32 "2012-10-10T19:49:03Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> That reminds me of the Conservative Party of Canada. They said they wouldn’t re-open the abortion debate, it wasn’t part of their platform, etc. …but a couple of weeks ago a Conservative backbencher put forward a private member’s bill to “set up a special parliamentary committee to examine the current definition of a human being” i.e. reopen the abortion debate. [It got voted down](http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/09/26/motion-312_n_1915171.html), but what do you know, over half of the Conservative MPs voted in favor of it (compared to less than 3% of opposition MPs). Even the minister for the status of women voted in favor of it. Eesh.

There’s really worrying moves a bit like that in the UK at themmoment. Even though it’s in no way an issue here, certainly compared to America, we’ve somehow ended up with a health secretary who hates them and almost as a one man campaign (well him and Nadine Dorris) is trying to come up with something or other through the back door.

For example in theory you are only allowed abortions in the UK if the mother’s health is at risk, and two doctors agree, but this is a total lie that as far as I know has always been ignored. However he’s started actually doing audits of places to check their records on this and (not surprisingly) they’ve been failing. He’s also on record as saying he wants the abortion cut off to be TWELVE WEEKS!

Absolutely insane really, but no one has really noticed because, as I say, abortion is just not an issue here. If he starts really buggering around I should imagine then it will be…

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/33 "2012-10-10T20:10:21Z")

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> [@Jesus of Nazareth](#):
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> I think the gender gap must be really starting to float away on him. the “war on women” stuff has really hurt Republicans. Women are going like 2-1 for Obama.

Ummm … no: [http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/15661705-452/romney-ahead-in-polls-for-first-time-gains-ground-with-women-voters.html](http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/15661705-452/romney-ahead-in-polls-for-first-time-gains-ground-with-women-voters.html) and [http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/10-8-12%20Political%20Release.pdf](http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/10-8-12%20Political%20Release.pdf) to cite a couple of examples.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/34 "2012-10-10T21:05:25Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Which one? I seem to recall a candidate who promised a net spending cut at a debate. How’d that work out?

Maybe he meant _butterfly_ nets, did you ever think of that? How much of your tax dollar goes to buy _those_ now? Yeah, that’s right. Almost _none_.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/35 "2012-10-10T21:27:30Z")

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**Vinny** , you don’t get it. He means that something Obama said might be interpreted so that it is not 100% solid truth. Therefore, the Law of Equivalence demands that anything Romney says, no matter how false nor how often repeated, is precisely the same.

If Obama sells you a beat up old Caddy, and says it gets pretty good mileage, considering…then by the Law of Equivalence, that would be precisely the same as if Romney solid it to you by telling you it would fly.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/36 "2012-10-10T21:42:07Z")

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[Pro-life conservatives drafting Obama’s response for him.](http://news.yahoo.com/conservatives-remind-romney-abortion-pledge-192509554--election.html)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/37 "2012-10-10T22:34:38Z")

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> **[Romney Reiterates: 'I'm A Pro-Life Candidate'](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/romney-pro-life-abortion_n_1955812)**
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> Romney Reiterates: 'I'm A Pro-Life Candidate'

**Romney Reiterates: ‘I’m A Pro-Life Candidate’**

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> …After telling a reporter on Tuesday that he would not pursue any legislation to restrict abortion, Republican candidate Mitt Romney waved away suspicions Wednesday that his anti-abortion stance is wavering.
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> “I think I’ve said time and again, I’m a pro-life candidate,” he told reporters at a campaign stop in Ohio according to a pool report. “I’ll be a pro-life president. The actions I’ll take immediately are to remove funding for Planned Parenthood. It will not be part of my budget.”…

Comment is superfluous.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/38 "2012-10-10T23:15:42Z")

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So how many Romneys Per Minute are we looking at, here?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/39 "2012-10-10T23:22:12Z")

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“I am not not for being against laws that i favor being not in support of their passage.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/40 "2012-10-10T23:22:31Z")

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“Read my lips: no new abortions.”

Actually, strike that. Ew.

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