# Romney: No New Abortion Legislation If Elected **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 10, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277 "2012-10-10T02:57:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/41 "2012-10-10T23:24:47Z")
kind of like a spinning top with a different clown faces around the circumference, keeps changing. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/42 "2012-10-10T23:30:03Z")
It is almost like Rmoney woke up one morning and said to himself, “Wow! I did great in the debates, and I seem to be gaining the lead in the polls! I wonder what I could do to completely fuck this up…” ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/43 "2012-10-11T01:41:54Z")
He gets away with this because the people who should care deeply, his constituency, don’t care a hoot! Just like they are unimpressed to hear he’s not accurate, or changing his stance. Doesn’t even give them pause. If anything I’d wager it amuses them to see the ‘lamestream’ media and the left, getting all panty twisted and lathered up about it. They don’t care because they know the game he’s playing. Say what he needs to say to get into office and then do what they’re all hoping for; roll back abortion and contraception rights, reinstitute DADT, make gay marriage illegal, etc. If anything they are comforted by his shenanigans! They see him running his game on the media, and they think it makes him appear powerful. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/44 "2012-10-11T02:11:05Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > He gets away with this because the people who should care deeply, his constituency, don’t care a hoot! Wrong. See post #36, where a pro-life group takes a shot at Romney by reminding him about a pledge he signed and an article he’d written on the subject last year. > [@](#): > > Just like they are unimpressed to hear he’s not accurate, or changing his stance. Yes, that’s why an overwhelming 35% of Republicans flocked to Romney during the primaries. > [@](#): > > Say what he needs to say to get into office and then do what they’re all hoping for I agree that that’s the plan at this point, but I think you’ve forgotten how little trust conservatives have in Romney. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/45 "2012-10-11T02:49:08Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The actual quote: > > He says nothing even close to your dicey interpretation of his words. He’s pro-life but has no plans to pass any new legislation. Pretty darn simple. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/46 "2012-10-11T02:55:03Z")
Except he plans on defunding Planned Parenthood. (See quote, post #37) Which, oddly enough, is not within his executive discretion, for that one, he will have to have legislation. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/47 "2012-10-11T02:58:52Z")
That’s not anti-abortion legislation anymore than taking away oil subsidies is anti-oil legislation. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/48 "2012-10-11T03:11:36Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Except he plans on defunding Planned Parenthood. (See quote, post #37) > > Which, oddly enough, is not within his executive discretion, for that one, he will have to have legislation. But that legislation doesn’t exist yet (how could it when the current Congress will have expired before the inauguration?), so it’s not legislation that he’s familiar with. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/49 "2012-10-11T03:19:02Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s not anti-abortion legislation anymore than taking away oil subsidies is anti-oil legislation. That argument and four dollars will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/50 "2012-10-11T03:22:17Z")
They make you pay extra for a bad argument? _Me gusta!_ ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/51 "2012-10-11T03:55:18Z")
This might be news to Democrats, but raising spending on something is not a way to show support for that thing, and cutting spending on something does not imply opposition to that thing. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/52 "2012-10-11T04:09:53Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > This might be news to Democrats, but raising spending on something is not a way to show support for that thing, and cutting spending on something does not imply opposition to that thing. Do you think Planned Parenthood does good work? Why DON’T they deserve to be funded? Isn’t giving good and accurate advice, helping on such issues a public service? Something that is in the public interest? Should it be replaced with something? ---
**Author:** ![gatorslap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gatorslap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gatorslap)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/53 "2012-10-11T04:22:34Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > This might be news to Democrats, but raising spending on something is not a way to show support for that thing, and cutting spending on something does not imply opposition to that thing. By that logic, cutting military spending would be a-ok. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/54 "2012-10-11T04:54:25Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Do you think Planned Parenthood does good work? > > Why DON’T they deserve to be funded? Isn’t giving good and accurate advice, helping on such issues a public service? Something that is in the public interest? > > Should it be replaced with something? There is one good reason Planned Parenthood shouldn’t be funded: they don’t need to be. Same reason we shouldn’t fund oil companies or churches. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/55 "2012-10-11T04:55:47Z")
> [@gatorslap](#): > > By that logic, cutting military spending would be a-ok. Sure it is. But if Democrats are going to use spending cuts as a political weapon to claim their opponents are anti-woman, then there’s nothing wrong with Republicans calling Democrats anti-military. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/56 "2012-10-11T05:02:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > This might be news to Democrats, but raising spending on something is not a way to show support for that thing, and cutting spending on something does not imply opposition to that thing. In the case on Mitt Romney saying you support something in no way means you support it, unless it’s good to support it, except when it’s bad… This could all be cleared up if Romney would stick to one position and explain exactly what that position is. Of course the best he tells us on any specifics is ‘I’ll let you know after the election’ Paul Ryan has been pretty consistent on the abortion issue. He’s sponsored 34 anti-abortion laws. His life at conception bill was very clear, abortion and hormonal birth control should be illegal in all instances. When Paul Ryan says ‘Mitt Romney and I share the same views on abortion’ should we take that as Ryan being willing to adopt whatever position Romney has this day of the week dropping his life long stance on the issue or does that mean Romney would pass Ryan’s bill? ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/57 "2012-10-11T05:18:30Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There is one good reason Planned Parenthood shouldn’t be funded: they don’t need to be. > > Same reason we shouldn’t fund oil companies or churches. People don’t need access to the services that Planned Parenthood offer? :dubious: If they “don’t need to be” where is that advice and where are those services going to come from? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/58 "2012-10-11T05:22:53Z")
Tax cuts! ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/59 "2012-10-11T05:36:21Z")
Planned Parenthood doesn’t require federal funding. They do just fine getting money from other sources. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277/60 "2012-10-11T06:37:13Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Planned Parenthood doesn’t require federal funding. They do just fine getting money from other sources. Planned parenthood FUNDING (not fee revenue) [ul] [li]government grants and reimbursements of $487 million,[/li][li] private contributions and bequests of $224 million, [/li][li]and other revenues $17 million[/li][/ul] > [@](#): > > Planned Parenthood is the largest U.S. provider of reproductive health services, including cancer screening, HIV screening and counseling, contraception, and abortion. Contraception accounts for 35% of PPFA’s total services You really really think it’s a good idea to cut Planned Parenthood? Who and what is going to pick up the slack? What would happen to abortions if it were cut? What would happen to (the rate of) unwed mothers? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-no-new-abortion-legislation-if-elected/637277.md?page=4)