# Romney supporters: were you shocked he lost?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 11, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723 "2012-11-11T22:08:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723/61 "2012-11-14T19:07:58Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> For me, it means that Kael knew perfectly well, when she was in a large public place like a movie theater, that there were Nixon voters all around her on all sides…

Your interpretation, and therefore your post, is obviously stupid, since it would imply that Kael thought she was surrounded by one person.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723/62 "2012-11-14T19:14:12Z")

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Fuck sakes. She was utilizing a rare rhetorical device generally referred to as “joking.”

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723/63 "2012-11-14T19:21:16Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> My understanding is that they used demographic data from 2004 to ‘unskew’ the polls, assuming that the high voter turnout among minorities, women and youths in 2008 was an aberration while Silver and others simply used the most recent data available.

My impression is that many Americans were quite upset by Republican nastiness, especially given publicity about voter suppression efforts, and were therefore energized to vote early, or to turn out on Election Day.

The election might have been much closer, IMO, with less GOP mischief.

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**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723/64 "2012-11-14T19:21:36Z")

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I definitely see where the OP was going here. I spoke to no less than a dozen of my republican friends who all were completely convinced Romney would win.

I actually called for Obama to win MUCH easier than he did and was actually a little surprised it was that close. But not a single republican I know was in doubt… and now they are less than happy about it.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723/65 "2012-11-14T19:25:08Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Isn’t it? Well, not for you.
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> For me, it means that Kael knew perfectly well, when she was in a large public place like a movie theater, that there were Nixon voters all around her on all sides, but that she chose (as any sensible person would) to avoid socializing, chatting, exchanging ideas, entertaining Nixon voters when she had that option because of the likelihood that they would behave in boorish, self-centered, obnoxious ways. You know, like Republicans can’t help themselves from doing.

I’m conservative. A lot of my friends are liberal, but we still have very good friendships. We respect each other. I suspect I’d get along well with many liberals here and we’d even be friends.

Stop looking for the stereotypes (I could write one for liberals just as easily as you just did) and talk to the people. If we forgot about the D’s and R’s we’d all get along so much better.

ETA: It probably helps me that I’m critical of Romney and the Republican party, but more conservatives like me ARE out here. I actually am interested in hearing constructive criticism, but not the usual litany of how stupid Republicans are. There are good people who want to fix this party and some of the ridiculous stances it’s taken.

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**Author:** ![Mdcastle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mdcastle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mdcastle)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723/66 "2012-11-14T20:19:14Z")

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I’m a Romney supporter and I’m not surprised. You had an incumbent president with no major fuck-ups in his term, and a candidate with the charisma of John Kerry who had some frankly idtiotic economic ideas.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723/67 "2012-11-14T20:19:53Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Well I’m shocked that you’re shocked that… No, seriously now, the Fox News guys do have their heads lodged neatly in denial’s asshole. If anyone hasn’t seen [this hilarious bit of entertainment by now](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk&feature=related), it’s 20 minutes of Karl Rove fussing like a little fucking baby about Ohio being called for Obama. Even the Fox News numbers guys are like “This is over, brah,” and Rove’s response is “No! No! No!” This is \*after \*it’s been called, mind you. He simply refuses to accept reality. He harps on and on about how there are still votes left, and when the statisticians respond that yes, but in heavily and reliably Democratic areas, and there’s just no way Romney can make up ground. And how does Rove respond to this bit of information? With the claim, yet again, that there are still votes left! You may have seen compilations of this on “The Daily Show” or elsewhere, but the complete footage is brilliant and gives you a greater appreciation of the full lunacy. Even Megyn Kelly was like “It’s over, dude,” but Rove balls his fists up at his side and cries about how the math = lies. What a fucking clown.

“Is this just math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better, or is it real?”

THAT quote from Megan Kelly is my favorite thing ever and you can expect to see it featured prominently in my future postings.

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**Author:** ![thenonepercent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@thenonepercent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thenonepercent)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-supporters-were-you-shocked-he-lost/640723/68 "2012-11-15T02:01:23Z")

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The republican party has been reduced to a conflict between a mostly moderate electorate and pundit/business interests that want to profit off of their fear and xenophobia. They didn’t care if Romney won; they just wanted to profit off of the Two Minutes Hate.

The republican propaganda/media engine profits more from the fear they’re selling when the democrats are in charge. So it goes.

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