# Ron DeSantis 2024 (Campaign suspended on January 21, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 12, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592 "2020-04-12T00:26:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/21 "2021-08-30T05:39:04Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I agree that once it’s clear to most Americans that one-party rule is here, there will be plenty of economic failure (and scarcity This seems like it would lead to the collapse of the global economy and fatal disruptions of the global food supply. Which makes me wonder if some kind of corporate or foreign intervention of _some_ kind could become a factor. It sounds far fetched, but hey, at the point being theorized here, I think anything becomes possible. This is world-shaking stuff here; I can’t see how a majority of economic or political power decides that this result is in their personal best interest. Maybe someone smarter at the helm who’d be trusted to keep promises and alliances, but just as Trump is definitely not that, is DeSantis? I don’t know. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > and plenty of physical force used to control the populace. Militaristic, indeed—it will be their only option. Serious question: when folks say this, what are they envisioning in a logistical sense? Troops marching on every urban/liberal area of the country? Conversion of police nationwide to a military unit? This has been one reason I keep saying that I can’t see “United States structured exactly how it is now, except dictatorship” as a probable/possible outcome; I don’t think the current structure the size of the country can be propped up across the current national boundaries with fear and violence as the major glue. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/22 "2021-08-30T07:15:14Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Serious question: when folks say this, what are they envisioning in a logistical sense? Troops marching on every urban/liberal area of the country? Conversion of police nationwide to a military unit? This has been one reason I keep saying that I can’t see “United States structured exactly how it is now, except dictatorship” as a probable/possible outcome; I don’t think the current structure the size of the country can be propped up across the current national boundaries with fear and violence as the major glue. Nah. All the police will have to do is treat white people like they already treat black people. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/23 "2021-08-30T21:43:42Z")
Something often not mentioned in discussions of DeSantis 2024 is that he has the gubernatorial election in 2022 first. ( **dale42j** _did_ mention this in [post #10](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024/851592/10)) Frontrunners are Mr. DeSantis (R), ex-governor-turned-U.S. Rep Charlie Christ (D), and Sec. of Agriculture Nikki Fried (D). ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/24 "2021-08-31T00:10:27Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Serious question: when folks say this, what are they envisioning in a logistical sense? Troops marching on every urban/liberal area of the country? Conversion of police nationwide to a military unit? This has been one reason I keep saying that I can’t see “United States structured exactly how it is now, except dictatorship” as a probable/possible outcome; I don’t think the current structure the size of the country can be propped up across the current national boundaries with fear and violence as the major glue. In general, authoritarian states operate with a mix of visible armed forces, a legal system that corruptly punishes dissent, and a population taught that informing on their friends and relatives is both lucrative, and “patriotic.” I don’t see any reason to believe that a nation as large as the USA would be immune to such tactics. We’ve already lived through many of the precursors: a de-valuing of the concepts of “democracy” and “rule of law” and an adoption of cynical acceptance of corruption. We have an entire media apparatus ready to embrace and celebrate authoritarian rule. We have a substantial portion of the population trained to believe that they need “protection” from particular scapegoats (immigrants and other outgroups), and that “a strong government” is the right way to achieve that protection. Why would physical (or population) size protect us from what’s already here? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/25 "2021-09-01T11:11:26Z")
Personally, I can’t imagine this will help him, but what do I know? > **[Florida withholds school board salaries over mask mandates](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/despite-court-s-decision-florida-withholds-school-board-salaries-over-n1278107)** > > Alachua County Public Schools Superintendent Carlee Simon said in a statement Tuesday she was "very troubled by the state's action." The Florida Department of Education made good on a threat to withhold funding from local school districts that defied Gov. Ron DeSantis’ ban on mask mandates. Just days after a state [judge ruled that the governor’s ban was unconstitutional](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/desantis-school-mask-mandate-ban-unlawful-florida-judge-rules-n1277788), Florida’s education commissioner on Monday announced the state was withholding funds from Alachua and Broward counties “for their continued violation of state law.” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/26 "2021-09-01T11:18:50Z")
How long is it before Desantis channels his inner Huey Long and uses the state police to create a police state? ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/27 "2021-09-01T11:50:41Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Personally, I can’t imagine this will help him, but what do I know? I also can’t help but be curious about the political calculations of all of DeSantis’ moves. I get that many on the right are driven by “owning the libs” and how that plays out on the ground - they figure they weren’t going to get those votes anyway. But at some point, he’s gotta be pissing off (and killing off) a measurable number of people who have voted for him, or would tend to in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/28 "2021-09-01T17:08:34Z")
Biden promised ([Politico](https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/08/13/biden-administration-offers-financial-help-to-florida-school-leaders-defying-desantis-1390026)) to compensate the schools beforehand so it sort of makes sense in a dumb, “well this way we can make the feds pay for our schools _and_ stay in the news” way. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/29 "2021-09-01T17:29:18Z")
Money, money, money… > **[Wealthy GOP donors flock to DeSantis as presidential speculation swirls](https://www.aol.com/news/wealthy-gop-donors-flock-desantis-080000555.html)** > > DeSantis has become the face of Republican efforts to fight anti-Covid mandates. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/30 "2021-09-09T02:55:59Z")
Of course. If Trump can be elected, then DeSantis can be. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/31 "2021-09-14T03:46:41Z")
I wonder at what point Trump will consider DeSantis a threat to his own reelection campaign and turn against him? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/32 "2021-09-14T13:38:56Z")
The _instant_ he sees him in that light, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/33 "2021-09-14T16:36:10Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I wonder at what point Trump will consider DeSantis a threat to his own reelection campaign and turn against him? DeSantis strikes me as the proverbial “good soldier”. Yes, he is ambitious but he is also only 43. I find it highly unlikely he will run in 2024 if Trump does. In fact, I would say he would be on the extremely short list of possible VP choices for a second Trump run. Of course, that would mean Trump would have to establish residency back in NY or at his golf club in NJ. But no way DeSantis enters the race without approval from The Don. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/34 "2021-09-14T17:18:16Z")
@CalMeacham shared this in the [Party of Evil thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil), but it belongs here, too. > **[On Covid-19 crisis, Florida's DeSantis starts to lose the plot](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/covid-19-crisis-florida-s-desantis-starts-lose-plot-n1279135)** > > Instead of maintaining a vaccines-and-freedom-are-both-good posture, DeSantis participated in a deeply problematic press conference. Standing by while idiots spout nonsense and thousands of your voters die. The perfect GOP candidate! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/35 "2021-09-15T07:08:45Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I wonder at what point Trump will consider DeSantis a threat to his own reelection campaign and turn against him? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > The _instant_ he sees him in that light, of course. This may be happening already? I’ve been seeing reports that Trump is turning against DeSantis, possibly because he sees him as up-coming competition? > **[Trump's 'Good Guy' Comment About DeSantis Might Not Be How He Really Feels:...](https://ijr.com/trumps-good-guy-comment-desantis-might-not-report/)** > > "He just resents his popularity." > [@](#): > > Former President Donald Trump has a stronger dislike for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) than he previously indicated, according to a new report. > > A Trump confidant told Vanity Fair, “Trump f\*\*\*\*ing hates DeSantis. He just resents his popularity,” The outlet noted Trump said of DeSantis, “Ron is a good guy.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/36 "2021-09-15T13:47:14Z")
Wow, Trump says one thing and thinks (add your own scare quotes around that word, if you want) another? That would be a first. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/37 "2021-11-19T14:27:23Z")
No surprise: > **[Trump's ire grows as DeSantis' popularity with Republicans takes off | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/politics/trump-desantis-relationship/index.html)** > > In a matter of months, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has gone from being a shining example in Donald Trump's eyes of a MAGA leader molded in his image to an average politician who forgot his roots as he rose to Republican stardom. ---
**Author:** ![Tarataratara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tarataratara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarataratara)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/38 "2022-01-02T05:42:55Z")
This would be comical if it were not real life. Keep in mind that the video I am linking believes it is showing DeSantis in a positive light. DeSantis had a very awkward answer to a question about vaccines from a 60 Minutes reporter. His supporters claimed that the 60 Minutes clip was edited to make him look bad and showed what they claim to be his entire answer. Compare the two clips, look at the background and people around DeSantis in both, and play spot the differences. I can’t see how the second clip wasn’t filmed later by the governor’s team. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zQDAoa748Jg/hqdefault.jpg "Saagar Enjeti: 60 Minutes CAUGHT Lying About Ron DeSantis Vaccination Campaign") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQDAoa748Jg) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/39 "2022-01-04T17:26:00Z")
True leadership: > **[DeSantis Blames Feds, Slams ‘Hysteria’ as Florida Shatters COVID Records](https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-governor-ron-desantis-blames-the-feds-slams-hysteria-as-florida-shatters-covid-records-with-omicron)** > > The Florida governor gave his first press conference in weeks, railing against COVID mitigation measures like masking, which he erroneously claimed “hasn’t worked period.” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/40 "2022-01-05T02:03:54Z")
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