# Ron DeSantis 2024 (Campaign suspended on January 21, 2024)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 12, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592 "2020-04-12T00:26:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/382 "2023-08-03T15:55:28Z")

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I’m not wild about Newsom, but I’d assume he’d stay calm while DeSantis became unhinged… at least I can hope.

But why the hell would Newsom agree to Hannity as an unbiased moderator? Hoping for air time (and a nomination if Biden croaks?), no matter what the setup, I assume.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/383 "2023-08-03T16:53:05Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> But why the hell would Newsom agree to Hannity as an unbiased moderator?

Newsom challenged DeSantis to a debate on Hannity.

~Max

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/384 "2023-08-03T16:54:40Z")

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Newsom is an idiot.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/385 "2023-08-03T17:08:43Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> Newsom challenged DeSantis to a debate on Hannity.
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> ~Max

AIUI Hannity asked Newsom if he’d debate DeSantis and Newsom immediately accepted. It’s been DeSantis holding back until now, but with the campaign in trouble and Newsom taunting him with “put up or shut up!” DeSantis has to accept in order to get some attention.

It’ll be interesting not so much for each stating their policy differences for considerate viewers to contemplate, but for the whole “Thunderdome” aspect of these two going at each other. Say what you will about Newsom, but he has shown no hesitation in calling out the MAGA lies or mixing it up with the likes of DeSantis. Ronny wont be able to hide, but he may have to back down.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/386 "2023-08-03T17:15:15Z")

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It’d by funny as hell if Newsom chanted under his breath “woke woke woke woke…” whenever DeSantis blathered on with that nonsense.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/387 "2023-08-03T17:25:20Z")

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Seriously. All Newsom has to do is ask DeSantis what “woke” means, since he is on a crusade to end it, then just sit back.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/388 "2023-08-03T17:43:13Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> “woke woke woke woke…”

Say that five times fast.

“Newsom Mocks DeSantis with Duck Call”  
“DeSantis Accuses Newsom of Quackery”

~Max

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/389 "2023-08-03T17:51:38Z")

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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck…

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/390 "2023-08-03T18:34:20Z")

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I’m picturing Ron going wild, gesturing and frothing, and Gavin just leans over the podium (and smirks at the camera of course), and says "“Oh, DO tell us more, Meatball…”

> [@snowthx](#):
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> “Thunderdome”

Ooh, maybe we can get this as a double bill, with the Musk vs Zuck cage match afterwards,

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/391 "2023-08-03T18:53:11Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> All Newsom has to do is ask DeSantis what “woke” means, since he is on a crusade to end it, then just sit back.

“Oh you know what it means, don’t sit there and lie and say you don’t.”

I think that’s all Ron has to say, as much BS as that answer is.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/392 "2023-08-03T19:08:04Z")

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In [a New Hampshire appearance](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/8/2/2184920/-Presidential-Hopeful-Anticipates-Slitting-Throats), DeSantis "vowed that when it comes to federal bureaucrats, “we are going to start slitting throats on Day One.”

SelfDestructimonious, he is.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/393 "2023-08-03T21:59:19Z")

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Here is another take on the [Newsom-DeSantis debate](https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/desantis-newsom-debate-fox-news-hannity-18277012.php):

_Let’s be very clear about why this is happening: DeSantis’ presidential campaign is bleeding [staff,](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/25/desantis-lets-go-of-more-than-1-3-of-campaign-staff-as-reset-continues-00108046) [money](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-campaign-finances-flashing-warning-signs-rcna94108) and [support in the polls](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/national/). He needs something, anything, to give his campaign life. Debating Newsom looks like an act of desperation because it is one._

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_Ron DeSantis losing to Newsom in a nationally televised debate would be campaign-ending stuff. Of course, when a candidate is doing as badly in the polls as DeSantis is right now, they have to take risks. But taking a risk of this magnitude for so little potential reward is a massive strategic blunder — not unlike the ones that put DeSantis in this position to begin with._

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/394 "2023-08-04T05:38:07Z")

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Central Florida is where the Disney complex is.

> **[Leprosy cases surging in Central Florida: CDC](https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4129366-leprosy-cases-surging-in-central-florida-cdc/)**
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> Correction: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shared information about the surge of leprosy cases in Central Florida in a research letter. A previous version of this article contained …

Trust in Ron, but count your fingers.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/395 "2023-08-05T17:25:18Z")

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Yikes.

I hope Newsom holds out a pudding cup to him and says, “I forgot the spoon, but I hear you’re actually okay with that.”

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/396 "2023-08-06T20:20:05Z")

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[DeSantis today said that “All those theories that were put out did not prove to be true.”](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/desantis-takes-risk-concedes-trumps-election-lies-false-rcna98249) Meaning the Big Lie theories. So he can’t quite come out and say Trump lied because then he’d lose MAGA votes, but he can’t agree with them either or he’ll lose people who dislike Trump. Poor Ronnie. /s

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/397 "2023-08-07T23:29:36Z")

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I’d pay to see that.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/398 "2023-08-08T16:36:40Z")

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[Ron DeSantis has moved his campaign manager to](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-replaces-campaign-manager-james-uthmeier-rcna98774) senior advisor and put his chief of staff in the spot. This seems like a big change for a hopeful POTUS, but he’s been shaking things up all week.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/399 "2023-08-08T16:39:00Z")

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It’s a “not my fault, it’s your fault, here is a new person” thing. Typical politician.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/400 "2023-08-08T21:44:55Z")

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nevermind

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/401 "2023-08-08T21:51:11Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> [Ron DeSantis has moved his campaign manager to](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-replaces-campaign-manager-james-uthmeier-rcna98774) senior advisor and put his chief of staff in the spot. This seems like a big change for a hopeful POTUS, but he’s been shaking things up all week.

Shuffling but keeping your top advisers doesn’t seem like a huge shakeup. More like rearranging the deck chairs while the S.S. DeSantis continues listing heavily to starboard.

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