# Ron DeSantis 2024 (Campaign suspended on January 21, 2024)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 12, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592 "2020-04-12T00:26:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/502 "2023-11-09T14:46:41Z")

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That article said it only gives him an extra 1-1/2". I don’t know that it would be worth it to be that uncomfortable for that little gain. But that’s just me.

_- Rebo: never ever wears heels_

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/503 "2023-11-09T14:47:17Z")

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Thanks you blockhead for being the first scumbag American politican to [spam](https://support.google.com/websearch/thread/167868112/how-do-i-stop-receiving-political-spam-from-desantis?hl=en) this Canuck’s inbox. (deleted without reading, IIRC the concern trolly heading was along the lines of “Would you do this for Carolyn?”)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/504 "2023-11-09T16:07:01Z")

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Hell, if’n he’d start a-wearin’ cowboy boots like all good gawd-fearin’ shit-kickin’ ‘Murricans already do, he’d be lookin’ good and walkin’ tall. (er).

Ah reckon he can fake bein’ a cowboy almost as good as he can fake bein’ human.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/505 "2023-11-09T17:21:32Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Hell, if’n he’d start a-wearin’ cowboy boots like all good gawd-fearin’ shit-kickin’ ‘Murricans already do, he’d be lookin’ good and walkin’ tall. (er).

It was not the boots, it was that stick up his…

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/506 "2023-12-01T06:19:39Z")

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Gavin Newsom shouldn’t have done that “debate” last night. Hannity was not an honest moderator,

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/507 "2023-12-01T06:50:04Z")

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Man I missed that debate. It would be hard to find many honest moderators to do that. Maybe the best one would be someone who personally knew the governors’ communication styles beforehand so they could make the debate uhmm a little synchronized.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/508 "2023-12-01T06:52:50Z")

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From what I’ve seen, it didn’t exactly go well for DeFuhrer.

[https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730416638812471647](https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730416638812471647)

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> Newsom: I’m the only guy here that is a border state governor. You’re trolling folks trying to find migrants to play political games to get some news so you can out-Trump Trump and by the way… how is that going for you? You’re down 41 pts in your own state

[https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730419720443093117](https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730419720443093117)

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> Newsom: I love this guy talking about backing the blue when he dangled pardons for January 6 insurrectionists charged with attacking law enforcement.

[https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730418671757983810](https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730418671757983810)

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> Newsom: He has a 66% higher than death rate in the state of California. Higher murder rate. A lot of places like Jacksonville. Go to places like Orlando. Go to places like Tampa. The rates are off the charts compared to cities compared to San Francisco.

[https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730408814950650167](https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730408814950650167)

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> Newsom: But there’s one thing in closing that we have in common, is neither of us will be the nominee for our party in 2024.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/509 "2023-12-01T07:16:55Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> From what I’ve seen, it didn’t exactly go well for DeFuhrer.

It really didn’t.

They both looked bad in my opinion. Hannity put up a graph about Covid deaths that I swear seemed bogus. Someone said it wasn’t adjusted for age. A few times Hannity seemed to debate Newsom, who I don’t think used effective arguments given the Fox audience. I could be wrong, and open to correction, but I don’t think it looked good for either party.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/510 "2023-12-01T12:32:03Z")

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I didn’t see the whole thing, but from the clips I’ve seen posted on Twitter, Newsom absolutely annihilated DeSantis. Which isn’t surprising – Newsom is really terrific in this format, and DeSantis always comes across as an awkward jerk.

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/511 "2023-12-01T13:00:35Z")

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Well nobody saw it. All we’ll see is the recaps, in which Newsom scored some great zingers… and Ron had a poop map. He truly is the worst candidate for president in my lifetime.

_I almost forgot the awkward smiling_

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/512 "2023-12-01T13:36:05Z")

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> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#):
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> and Ron had a poop map

I both want context for this statement and don’t, at the same time.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/513 "2023-12-01T14:05:21Z")

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That’s what I predicted (yay me!) back when this was announced. I saw how Newsom handed Hannity’s ass to him in an interview and was extremely confident he’d eat that stiff DeSantis’s lunch.

I’ll have to give it a look.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/514 "2023-12-01T14:48:56Z")

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Here’s more from _USA Today_: [5 takeaways from the DeSantis and Newsom debate: 'Neither of us will be our party's nominee in 2024'](https://www.aol.com/5-takeaways-desantis-newsom-debate-052345848.html)

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/515 "2023-12-01T15:00:26Z")

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I was kind of irritated that Newsom was going to participate in this debate. I just did not see the point.

I know it’s early and I’m probably only seeing the positive opinions since I don’t watch Fox, but most folks seem to think that Newsom knocked it out of the park.  
Some examples I’ve seen: Paraphrased

Someone call 911, there’s been a murder in the building.  
Hey Gavin, what’s the combination to the locker you stuffed Ron into?  
Gavin Newsom wipes the floor with Ron and the whole GOP.

So, if this is an accurate take, well then, Go Gavin.

Also, when Newsom said that neither he nor DeSantis will be on the ballot for 2024, that helped put my mind at ease. He also complimented Biden a lot.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/516 "2023-12-01T15:19:49Z")

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Gavin is a team player, though I’m sure he’s itching for the chance to run in '28. This was undoubtedly part of that. He is a very skilled communicator (very obviously Clintonesque), and while I don’t know if he’d be my preference in '28, he’ll be a very solid candidate, IMO.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/517 "2023-12-01T16:04:11Z")

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You have to be shit-the-bed bad at running for president to lose a debate to a guy who’s not even running.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/518 "2023-12-01T18:25:16Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > [@Hippy\_Hollow](#):
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> > and Ron had a poop map
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> I both want context for this statement and don’t, at the same time.

See here for the crappy details:

> **[Critics Crap On DeSantis For Breaking Out A Map Full O' Feces In Newsom Debate](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ron-desantis-feces-map-gavin-newsom-debate_n_6569589ce4b07b937ff4379f)**
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> The California governor couldn't help but laugh after DeSantis showcased the poop plots on Fox News.

De Santis is catching a lot of flak for just happening to have a map showing where feces were found in San Francisco on him. Pulling this out clearly was not the smartest thing for him to do.

And, just for shits and giggles, here’s a “poop map” for Miami. It’s eight years old, but it’s not clear to me how old the San Francisco map is, or whjat period of time it covers

> **[Miami has a serious street poop problem, so they created this street poop map](https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/miami-has-a-serious-street-poop-problem-so-they-created-this-street-poop-map-2395548)**
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> Last Thursday, Miami's Downtown Development Authority, a sort of tax-backed marketing group for the city, released a detailed and informative feces map showing where human...

> **[Miami gets a taxpayer-funded homeless poop map](https://money.cnn.com/2015/05/15/news/miami-poop-map/)**
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> A fight over Miami's homeless population and public restrooms has resulted in a taxpayer-funded poop map.

Edited to add: Evidently the SF map dates from 2019

[https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/poop-map-san-francisco-debate-18526030.php](https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/poop-map-san-francisco-debate-18526030.php)

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/519 "2023-12-01T19:37:35Z")

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So not only does he have a shit map, it’s an out-of-date shit map? At least Herschel’s toy badge was current.

As someone said: what kind of team are you running that allows someone to say, “I know, pull out a map of shit when he mentions San Francisco,” and that person is not immediately beaten to death/fired/heckled mercilessly until they run out of the room in eternal shame? The issue with DeSantis was that he was insecure, prickly, and surrounded by yes people (who am I kidding? Definitely MEN). This is that evidence.

Kayleigh McEnany, that paragon of objective journalistic integrity, and DeSantis’ dog are the only individuals trying to spin this as a victory. At best, nobody saw it. At worse…

💩 **POOP MAP** 💩

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/520 "2023-12-01T20:11:38Z")

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So far, DeSantis’s whole presidential campaign is proving he knows something about poop.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/521 "2023-12-01T20:55:22Z")

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I disagree, I dont think he knows shit.

🤪 😀

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