# Ron DeSantis 2024 (Campaign suspended on January 21, 2024)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 12, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592 "2020-04-12T00:26:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/121 "2022-08-26T16:12:54Z")

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Washington Examiner leaves a _lot_ out of its story, “And just like that, now DeSantis is a fascist.” Like how he uses his bully pulpit to try and destroy anyone who disagrees with him.

> **[And just like that, now DeSantis is a fascist](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/and-just-like-that-now-desantis-is-a-fascist/ar-AA118cLv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4d38a82b312cd5170c169756f9649e55)**
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> If Democrats ever had an original idea, it would die of loneliness. Such is the case with them calling any prominent Republican a fascist.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/122 "2022-08-26T23:48:32Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Have I mentioned before how proud Ronnie is that he has “kept Florida free”?

Well, after all, Freedom _IS_ Slavery.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/123 "2022-08-27T00:36:40Z")

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And as O’Brien pointed out:

> You know the Party slogan: “Freedom is Slavery.” Has it ever occurred to you that it is reversible? Slavery is freedom. Alone—free—the human being is always defeated. It must be so, because every human being is doomed to die, which is the greatest of all failures. But if he can make complete, utter submission, if he can escape from his identity, if he can merge himself in the Party so that he is the Party, then he is all-powerful and immortal.

Or in a slightly different context, the slave is free ‘cause ol’ Massa will provide everything he needs. Including what to think.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/124 "2022-08-27T23:49:59Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> And as O’Brien pointed out:
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> > You know the Party slogan: “Freedom is Slavery.” Has it ever occurred to you that it is reversible? Slavery is freedom. Alone—free—the human being is always defeated. It must be so, because every human being is doomed to die, which is the greatest of all failures. But if he can make complete, utter submission, if he can escape from his identity, if he can merge himself in the Party so that he is the Party, then he is all-powerful and immortal.
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> Or in a slightly different context, the slave is free ‘cause ol’ Massa will provide everything he needs. Including what to think. -

Either one of those interpretations would be cheerfully embraced by ol’ Ron.

And, no doubt, incorporated into Florida elementary-school curricula.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/125 "2022-08-28T02:46:38Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> > > But if he can make complete, utter submission, if he can escape from his identity, if he can merge himself in the Party so that he is the Party, then he is all-powerful and immortal.
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> Either one of those interpretations would be cheerfully embraced by ol’ Ron.

You do notice, that is the mentality of the religious fundamentalist vis-a-vis their deity-of-choice. Denying yourself and totally subsuming to the divine will is what will deliver you. God will provide, and what is good and right is what God says it is because it is he who says it is. So of course people with that view of life will rally to these sorts of political leaders.

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**Author:** ![dummygladhands71](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@dummygladhands71](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dummygladhands71)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/126 "2022-08-28T05:22:49Z")

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Charlie Crist. That is all.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/127 "2022-08-28T23:11:01Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> So of course people with that view of life will rally to these sorts of political leaders.

True enough–and it was ever so. The difference these days is the possibility of living in a fact-free zone, in which everything you hear or read and everyone you interact with reinforces whatever mythology you’ve chosen to believe in–that Democrats are _literally_ demons, or that Ron DeSantis is a decent human being, or what-have-you.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/128 "2022-09-02T00:52:30Z")

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If DeSantis becomes VP, the president’s first act should be to hire a food taster.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/129 "2022-09-09T00:13:41Z")

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> [DeSantis celebrates as most of his school board candidates win their Florida…](https://www.aol.com/news/desantis-celebrates-most-school-board-232500140.html)

Mine lost!

Which is actually kind of unfortunate because we were classmates and he’s an upstanding dude.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/130 "2022-09-15T13:11:19Z")

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Grrrrr.

> **['What is woke math?': In Florida, public school teachers bristle at...](https://www.aol.com/news/woke-math-florida-public-school-120355088.html)**
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> Increasingly low salaries, ever-changing curriculum expectations and new laws restricting what can and cannot be discussed in the classroom have led to extraordinary challenges for Florida's 176,000 public school teachers.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/131 "2022-09-15T14:42:09Z")

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Looks like more Ronny D hijinks…

> **[Migrants on Martha's Vineyard flight say they were told they were going to...](https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123109768/migrants-sent-to-marthas-vineyard)**
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> The plane flight carrying dozens of migrants and paid by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is the latest move by Republican officials to send migrants to Democrat-controlled cities.

I am hoping Gavin Newsom soon announces sending Florida some of our excess MAGAts.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/132 "2022-09-15T14:51:25Z")

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I’m a Floridian and moderate democrat. I was actually happy when he won the governorship over Andrew Gillum (something about that guy just did not smell right, and given what has happened since the election it would have been a disaster for democrats).

That said, I’ve come to loathe DeSantis. Not so much for his policies, but his retaliatory behavior against anyone who disagrees with him. He’s worse than Trump, IMHO.

I would just be happy to have a President who realized that he/she represents the whole country, even if they lean to the right or left. But they all pander to the base that has gotten them elected. Even in FL where races have been tight, the swing voters have not had much of an impact since Obama, when voter turnout really saw a bump.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/133 "2022-09-15T20:16:57Z")

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I voted for Putnam in the 2018 primary. Who knows if he would have turned out better or worse. I remember he faced some criticism for incompetence regarding concealed carry licenses, which really didn’t look good in the wake of the Parkland shooting. I thought he was still a better candidate than DeSantis, who was just riding the Trump wave. Even then DeSantis was glowing with national ambition. I thought he wanted to be tapped for Secretary of State or something. At least Putnam gave the impression that he was primarily concerned with Florida.

~Max

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/134 "2022-09-15T21:15:27Z")

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He probably thinks they’ll get jobs picking grapes.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/135 "2022-09-15T23:41:30Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Grrrrr.
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> ['What is woke math?': In Florida, public school teachers bristle at DeSantis's changes to education [Video]](https://www.aol.com/news/woke-math-florida-public-school-120355088.html)

All part of the project of privatizing education. It’s humming along quite satisfactorily, it would seem.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/136 "2022-09-16T01:53:41Z")

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And what’s this about the people being deposited (literally!) on Kamala Harris’ doorstep?

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/137 "2022-09-16T02:10:03Z")

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Unfortunately, that was my jerkwad Governor, Greg Abbott, who seems to be in some sort competition with DeSantis over who can ship the most migrants to a location that will “own the libs.”

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/138 "2022-09-16T10:43:10Z")

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I don’t know that there is much the Democrats can do to counter such behavior. My suggestion is to make a commercial where some of those immigrants thank those governors for providing safe passage north, and encourage more immigrants to head to FL and TX, suggesting they’ll get the same treatment, and air it in those states. Can’t stop them from doing this again, but maybe rub their faces in it.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/139 "2022-09-16T19:29:32Z")

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Democrats could cripple a potential DeSantis 2024 run by defeating his gubernatorial campaign this November. They’re betting on former Republican-turned-Independent-turned-Democrat ex-Governor Charlie Crist. Trump seems to have convinced his base that he’s not a loser despite losing, but I don’t see DeSantis pulling that off.

~Max

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-2024-campaign-suspended-on-january-21-2024/851592/140 "2022-09-16T19:52:21Z")

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My sister and brother in law have said that they will sometime move to Florida. So there’s two more Democratic voters coming Florida’s way. You know, for what it’s worth.

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