# Ron DeSantis - The Pit Edition

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 25, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601 "2023-05-25T23:20:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/101 "2023-07-24T22:57:07Z")

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(Guess). Algorithm showed he lived in a left leaning area of the district.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/102 "2023-07-24T22:58:43Z")

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The law says all long-standing mail in requests must be cancelled. Yours is longstanding. And therefore is cancelled.

That’s pretty much it. Anyone who wants to re-apply for a mail-in ballot is free to do so. But the State very carefully didn’t notify anyone individually. Instead the D party is trying to notify everyone while the R party is carefully pretending this never happened.

The goal is obvious; surprising people who don’t get a mail ballot and then don’t figure it out in time to arrange to be able to vote on election day. Selective disenfranchisement pure and simple.

Once again it’s a law that is non-partisan in its terms created by radical partisans with a radically partisan goal and a radically partisan outcome. That’s how Fascists do it.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/103 "2023-07-24T23:03:34Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> … the R party is carefully pretending this never happened.

But won’t that actually disenfranchise more R voters? Especially military members? Seems like some real own-goal potential, especially if the Ds do a good job notifying everyone.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/104 "2023-07-24T23:09:42Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Once again it’s a law that is non-partisan in its terms created by radical partisans with a radically partisan goal and a radically partisan outcome. That’s how Fascists do it.

That and [REDMAP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REDMAP) are just a couple examples of the Republican Party trying to kill democracy by smothering it in its sleep.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/105 "2023-07-24T23:40:05Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> > [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > … the R party is carefully pretending this never happened.
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> But won’t that actually disenfranchise more R voters? Especially military members? Seems like some real own-goal potential, especially if the Ds do a good job notifying everyone.

It’ll disenfranchise everyone who’s not paying attention. The R party may very well be carefully notifying those people. Most of the non-resident military are voting in safe majority R districts anyhow.

The goal is to basically kill the part-timer / retiree vote. And the old fart’s home vote. Who are overwhelmingly from the NY / NJ / Phillie / DC area, are concentrated in a few heavily D districts, and are overwhelmingly D voters. Who all have a hard time voting in person. So if they don’t apply for a mail-in soon enough, they can’t vote, period.

If those people are successfully disenfranchised, the Rs may take 75+% of the seats in the Tallahassee legislature, all the state executive positions, and all the federal elected positions as well. And of course carry the state for whoever the R party nominates for President. That becomes pure unchecked one-party rule. First in Talahassee, then in Washington.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/106 "2023-07-26T12:09:41Z")

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DPRF is apparently suffering an epidemic of leprosy, which one might interpret as a sign that some Old Testament-style god is mad at Dear Leader.

> **[A leprosy endemic? So far this year, eight people got leprosy in Florida](https://www.rawstory.com/florida-leprosy/)**
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> Leprosy, the infectious disease most commonly known for its biblical associations, has become more common in Florida, researchers warn.
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> In 2020, the Sunshine State was among the states with the highest number of leprosy cases, contributing to...

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/107 "2023-07-26T14:10:17Z")

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What Surgeon General of Florida doing? (semi-obscure reference to Russian bloggers wondering about Air Defense) - spoilered for fun

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/108 "2023-07-26T14:20:04Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> DPRF is apparently suffering an epidemic of leprosy, which one might interpret as a sign that some Old Testament-style god is mad at Dear Leader. -
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> [A leprosy endemic? So far this year, eight people got leprosy in Florida - Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/florida-leprosy/)

News flash: Increasing number of Floridians giving DeSantis the finger.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/109 "2023-07-26T14:29:58Z")

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Well played.

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**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/110 "2023-07-26T14:31:12Z")

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People’s Christian Republic of Florida. PCRF

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/111 "2023-08-01T19:50:45Z")

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**He’s sinking**. A debate is suggested, not him of course, in an attempt to legitimize the re-whiting of history in Floriduh. Harris points out that a debate, discussion, or acceptance of invitation puts a white sheet sheen of respectability on this abhorrent perfidy.

> **[Ron DeSantis Invites Kamala Harris to Debate Florida's Slavery Curriculum...](https://jezebel.com/ron-desantis-invites-kamala-harris-to-debate-floridas-n-1850695829)**
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> William Allen, who helped write the curriculum teaching that slavery benefitted the slaves, was accused of kidnapping a 14-year-old Indigenous girl in 1989.

“But it’s such a shameless move that even Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) is mocking the governor about it.” Matt Gaetz people, he’s mocking DeSantis, dog and cats raining from the sky - I forget the expression - holy hell.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/112 "2023-08-01T21:35:50Z")

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I wonder what “beneficial life skills” that minor girl learned during that ordeal.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/113 "2023-08-01T22:41:36Z")

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This might be better in P&E.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/114 "2023-08-02T12:50:07Z")

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Fuck. Florida really does want to be [Y’allqueda](https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-may-become-first-state-230000595.html). DeSantis, of course, is boosting it. So, what is it? Check out [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Learning_Test):

> The **Classic Learning Test** (or CLT) is a standardized test developed by Classic Learning Initiatives. Designed as an alternative to other standardized tests such as the [SAT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT) and [ACT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACT_(test)),[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Learning_Test#cite_note-1) the test is heavily based in [Western culture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Learning_Test#cite_note-2) and was “devised to follow the great classical and Christian tradition”,[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Learning_Test#cite_note-Tampa_Bay_Times-3) according to CLI. The CLT was created in 2015 by Jeremy Tate and is based in [Annapolis, Maryland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annapolis,_Maryland).

And why does DeSantis preach it?

_From the first link above:_

> Florida’s consideration of the CLT follows a high-profile [dispute between the administration of Gov. Ron DeSantis](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-blocks-high-school-ap-african-american-studies-class-rcna66654) and the College Board, which administers the SAT, [over an Advanced Placement African American history course](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/ap-african-american-studies-course-watered-gop-pressure-rcna68454) offered by the organization. After he accused the AP course of left-wing bias, DeSantis said Florida [would look for alternatives](https://www.vice.com/en/article/akexpa/ron-desantis-sat) to other College Board products.

Keep it up, Florida. Soon your students will be eligible only for Florida universities and those degrees will not be recognized outside of that “Christian fortress”.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/115 "2023-08-02T13:34:09Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Fuck. Florida really does want to be [Y’allqueda](https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-may-become-first-state-230000595.html). DeSantis, of course, is boosting it. So, what is it? Check out [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Learning_Test):
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> > The **Classic Learning Test** (or CLT) is a standardized test developed by Classic Learning Initiatives. Designed as an alternative to other standardized tests such as the [SAT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT) and [ACT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACT_(test)),[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Learning_Test#cite_note-1) the test is heavily based in [Western culture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Learning_Test#cite_note-2) and was “devised to follow the great classical and Christian tradition”,[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Learning_Test#cite_note-Tampa_Bay_Times-3) according to CLI. The CLT was created in 2015 by Jeremy Tate and is based in [Annapolis, Maryland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annapolis,_Maryland).

Standards are important. The more the better.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/116 "2023-08-02T13:34:53Z")

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Please tell me that was sarcasm.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/117 "2023-08-02T13:36:23Z")

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That was sarcasm.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/118 "2023-08-02T13:38:24Z")

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I wish I was sharp enough to make a joke about DeSantis and the CLT.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/119 "2023-08-02T13:40:50Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > “Florida’s consideration of the CLT follows a high-profile [dispute between the administration of Gov. Ron DeSantis](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-blocks-high-school-ap-african-american-studies-class-rcna66654) and the College Board, which administers the SAT, [over an Advanced Placement African American history course](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/ap-african-american-studies-course-watered-gop-pressure-rcna68454) offered by the organization. After he accused the AP course of left-wing bias, DeSantis said Florida [would look for alternatives](https://www.vice.com/en/article/akexpa/ron-desantis-sat) to other College Board products.”
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> Keep it up, Florida. Soon your students will be eligible only for Florida universities and those degrees will not be recognized outside of that “Christian fortress”.

Au contraire. If you aspire to admittance at Oral Roberts University, Kentucky Mountain Bible College or [a couple hundred other fabled institutions of higher learning](https://www.cltexam.com/colleges/), and can’t hack the “woke” math and verbal propaganda on the SAT, the CLT offers a swell option.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/120 "2023-08-02T15:01:49Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I wish I was sharp enough to make a joke about DeSantis and the CLT.

It’s an extremely sensitive subject.

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