# Ron DeSantis - The Pit Edition **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601 "2023-05-25T23:20:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/161 "2023-08-07T20:31:31Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > He was in the military. Nametags on uniforms are normal there. He may be emulating that look now as a way to burnish his veteran cred. Also, there has been a trend for various state and local office-holders and their staff to affect a pseudo-uniform of a polo or a jacket of whatever’s your office’s brand color, with the name and office seal of the big cheese embroidered or printed on it, as a way to emphasize that all these people you see at the event are Team JoeBlow. Heck, local agencies that have a uniform will often custom-make one for the big boss (wo)man for when s/he shows up. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/162 "2023-08-07T20:37:41Z")
Yeah. In my city the mayor and our several district councilmen typically wear matching white polos with the city crest on the left breast. It’s kinda funny to see them all up on the dias at a council meeting dressed alike. You’d sort of expect politics to have more individuality to it. Then again, this is a town that mostly prides itself on a collegial usually unanimous leadership style, not the bare-knuckle brawling of implacably opposing factions. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/163 "2023-08-08T14:37:01Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If you find any images where his name on his shirt is upside down, that’s a bad sign. Nah, we’ll see his name printed in reverse, so he can read it in his compact. Now jokes about “politicians” needing to repair makeup. Dan ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/164 "2023-08-09T04:42:33Z")
Because a lot of linoleum had asbestos as an ingredient, that’s quite apropos. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/165 "2023-08-09T05:37:17Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > What I don’t get about this guy, and others like Ted Cruz, who even their own staff admit are entirely unlikable people, is, how the hell did they ever get started in politics in the first place? > > I mean, okay, once you’re the incumbent, it’s pretty easy to get re-elected. And I can understand voting for an incumbent because “He’s our guy”. But how did he get the nomination for his original office? Who looked at this guy the day he walked in the door, and decided _this_ was the guy they’d support? Did he just run completely unopposed, or something? Why couldn’t they find someone who could at least _fake_ being a likeable person? I think politics is one field where a total lack of shame and self-awareness can be an advantage. While a normal human being will realize how other people perceive them and hold back, someone like Cruz or DiSantis will forge ahead and sometimes, luck out. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/166 "2023-08-09T12:39:55Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Driven and hateful people often find wealthy benefactors wanting to bankroll a driven, hateful, and now wholly-owned person into power. For a beginning politician, overwhelming money is often the key. Sure, but “driven and hateful” is one thing, but “Driven and hateful and entirely unlikable” is something else. I mean, in the entire US, can’t they find someone who is both driven and hateful, but can actually laugh like a real human being, and who doesn’t just sit in silence when around other people? Hell, even Hitler went to the beer halls to hang out with his brown shirts. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/167 "2023-08-09T15:04:56Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Because a lot of linoleum had asbestos as an ingredient, that’s quite apropos. But, but, but … asbestos-ified linoleum is dangerous on the inside and pretty on the outside. DeSantis is dangerous on the outside and ugly on the inside. He’s the Bizarro opposite evil twin. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/168 "2023-08-09T18:18:56Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Sure, but “driven and hateful” is one thing, but “Driven and hateful and entirely unlikable” is something else. I think it’s two things (and here we are, being analytical and reasonable in the pit again) - one, very few people actually like politicians. We’re predisposed to dislike people put new rules in place, or taxes, or any of the other things government good and bad do as a matter of course. Sure, we have preferences, but it’s normally some variant on “Well, they’re not who I’d prefer, but they’re not completely evil/stupid/useless/corrupt!” The second is, of course in the USA, the -cost-. Both financially and emotionally, a bunch of people who could be qualified, and still recognizable as human beings rather than a giant insect in an Edgar-suit, but don’t want to put themselves and/or their families through the wringer for what is a thankless job. And if you’re not corrupt, one while lucrative, isn’t often the best paying option. But if you’re a waste of skin that is corrupt, and so self-absorbed or callous as to not care, you can make it to the top of the list for those big donors. Like calls to like in other words. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/169 "2023-08-11T22:27:09Z")
And in this thread’s guest of dishonor’s continuing effort to remove all value of a Florida diploma, we have [this latest example of intelligent behavior](https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-appointee-laughs-colleges-gender-155500324.html): > **DeSantis Appointee Laughs at College’s Gender Studies Head After Voting to End Program** And who is this joker? > Among DeSantis’ appointees is Christopher Rufo, the far-right activist [credited](https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-inquiry/how-a-conservative-activist-invented-the-conflict-over-critical-race-theory) by the _New Yorker_ with “inventing the conflict” targeting critical race theory and creating racist panics in school districts across the country. In March 2022, Jezebel [reported](https://jezebel.com/a-group-of-sex-ed-teachers-are-afraid-for-their-lives-a-1848651425) on Rufo’s misinformation and hysteria campaign that led to a group of Appalachian sex educators being forced to hide in safe houses. And his reaction to an actual expert’s, an actual educator’s testimony? > When Reid offered impassioned remarks about the importance of her program, the _Times_ reports that Rufo could be seen visibly laughing at her. These are not adults you have in charge in Florida. “Be better, do better” is gibberish to them. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/170 "2023-08-11T23:11:38Z")
Federal laws protecting employees on maternity leave? [Not on Ron’s watch!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-suspends-worrell-leadership-fires-173600496.html) > **After DeSantis suspends Worrell, new leadership fires staffer on maternity leave** > > Within days of [Gov. Ron DeSantis’ suspension of Monique Worrell](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2023/08/09/gov-ron-desantis-suspends-orange-osceola-state-attorney-monique-worrell-from-office/), an executive staff member at the State Attorney’s Office who was on maternity leave was notified of her termination when investigators with the office accompanied by law enforcement made an unexpected visit to her home. > > Keisha Mulfort, the former chief of staff for the State Attorney’s Office and Worrell, went on leave on May 30, the day her daughter was born. She has spent time in the hospital due to birth-related complications, she told the Sentinel. > > Her leave, according to her lawyer Fritz Scheller, is pursuant to the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA), a federal law providing certain workers job-protected leave when taking time off for medical reasons including pregnancy or birth. Scheller contends that her firing as well as the demands made to her after Worrell’s suspension may violate federal law protecting workers. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/171 "2023-08-15T02:24:45Z")
> **[Ron DeSantis Says He Has “Moved On” And Disney Should Drop Its Lawsuit...](https://deadline.com/2023/08/ron-desantis-disney-lawsuit-1235519441/)** > > Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis urged The Walt Disney Co. to drop its lawsuit against him, while telling CNBC that he has “moved on” from his battle with the company and that it should drop t… “Sure, Disney, I accused you of being sexual predators and unconstitutionally used my political power to punish you for an expressing an opinion, but that was weeks ago! Can’t you just accept that I’ve gotten what I needed from you and get over it?” ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/172 "2023-08-15T04:05:48Z")
I sure hope The Most Litigious Place on Earth doesn’t let this one go that easily! ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/173 "2023-08-15T16:45:56Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Sure, Disney, I accused you of being sexual predators and unconstitutionally used my political power to punish you for an expressing an opinion, but that was weeks ago! Can’t you just accept that I’ve gotten what I needed from you and get over it?” Their response "Oh Ronnie-boy, if it were only those pesky little accusations and smack talk, we’d have forgiven you long ago! You know we love money and only reluctantly and with minimal investment of effort caved to the demands of employees to at least speak to you about the whole ‘Don’t say gay thing.’ It’s forgiven! On the other hand, we had an _understanding_ about our perpetual kingdom of self rule, something you and your predecessors understood in the past. And you took that from us, our preciousss… that we will _never_ forgive, and never forget. When your charred legal remnants are finally removed from the the field, after your little ‘presidential’ stunt is done, we will move on, and make sure your successor understands that we OWN your little state - and you? You will not even be remembered." ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/174 "2023-08-15T22:35:11Z")
There’s a story out there about how the people who ran the bumper car ride at the Iowa State Fair let the De(mon)Santis family jump the line, and only allowed them to participate in that cycle. I actually didn’t see what the problem was, due to security issues. They DID have their 3 children with them, children I really feel sorry for due to who their sperm and womb donors are. > **[Ron DeSantis hogged a bumper cars ride, then his campaign made it a bigger issue](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/628877-ron-desantis-hogged-a-bumper-cars-ride-then-his-campaign-made-it-a-bigger-issue/)** > > ‘The ride was open to anyone who wanted to join,’ DeSantis’ campaign said despite video evidence to the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/175 "2023-08-15T23:49:55Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I actually didn’t see what the problem was, due to security issues. The problem was that it made him look like an entitled asshole (or rather more like an entitled asshole). When you are a candidate visiting the state fair with your family you are not there to enjoy yourself, you are on the job, and your job making yourself look folksy regular guy by mixing with the plain simple farmers common clay of the new west. Closing down the ride for the hoi paloi while you and your family are granted exclusive access sends a message that is the exact opposite of what you are trying to send. If there is a security concern with engaging in an activity where collisions are encouraged with people who may despise you and everything you stand for, then you leave the bumper cars alone and find an alternative ride. Admittedly, the whole state fair exercise is bullshit, but this reinforces the notion that DeSantis is really bad at trying to behave like a normal human being. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/176 "2023-08-16T00:50:34Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Admittedly, the whole state fair exercise is bullshit, but this reinforces the notion that DeSantis is really bad at trying to behave like a normal human being. And that his campaign is really bad at making him look like a human being. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/177 "2023-08-16T01:05:49Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > > that DeSantis is really bad at trying to behave like a normal human being. > > And that his campaign is really bad at making him look like a human being. There is only so much that handlers can do if the star of the show won’t let himself be handled. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/178 "2023-08-16T02:16:36Z")
He’s really bad at making HIMSELF look like a human being, or a decent one at least. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/179 "2023-08-16T02:47:13Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > “So when does he peel off the human skin and show his hyperalloy combat chassis? I mean it’s not a very convincing emulation of a human after all…” I repeat this again, because, well, it applies. Again. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601/180 "2023-08-16T02:48:42Z")
“hyperalloy combat chassis”? It’s probably made of tofu or balsa wood. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ron-desantis-the-pit-edition/984601.md?page=10)