# Ronald McDonald vs. Big Bird and Grimace vs. Mr. Snuffleupagus

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 4, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393 "2013-10-04T20:31:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stoned\_stoner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stoned\_stoner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoned_stoner)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/1 "2013-10-04T20:31:54Z")

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The yellow bird and his best friend face off against the McDonald and his best friend.  
Who would win in a fight:  
Ronald McDonald fights Big Bird while Grimace takes on Mr. Snuffleupagus.  
Who wins?

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/2 "2013-10-04T21:22:37Z")

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Easy one. BB and Mr.S try to be friends until RM shivs the Bird. All hell breaks loose as Mr. S loses his shit at seeing BB die, and stomps Grimace and Rotten Ronnie into purple and red goo respectively. You don’t mess with the Mastadon (or wooly mammoth as the case may be)…

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**Author:** ![TheChileanBlob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thechileanblob/32/435_2.png) [@TheChileanBlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheChileanBlob)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/3 "2013-10-04T21:23:21Z")

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I think Big Bird could totally fuck up Ronald. He’s just a clown, BB is a freaky giant canary with claws and a beak.

Likewise, Grimace is a big doofus with T-Rex arms. Snuffy would stomp him flat and trunk-whip him.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/4 "2013-10-04T22:06:27Z")

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My God, your username is spot-on.

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**Author:** ![want2befree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@want2befree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2befree)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/5 "2013-10-04T22:07:27Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> My God, your username is spot-on.

You read my mind!

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/6 "2013-10-04T22:54:59Z")

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[The answer is clear](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTZVzl1xBF8).

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**Author:** ![ac05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecb155/32.png) [@ac05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ac05)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/7 "2013-10-06T03:28:48Z")

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Ronald McDonald’s smarter than Big Bird, so he wins. And Mr. Snuffleupagus was always intended to be imaginary when Jim Henson created him, so Grimace wins by default.

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**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/8 "2013-10-06T13:29:03Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> [The answer is clear](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTZVzl1xBF8).

I was coming in here to give this answer, damn it. Anyway, the answer is obvious.

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/9 "2013-10-06T14:20:46Z")

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Does Ronald McDonald have magical powers?  
Because that could change my vote

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**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/10 "2013-10-06T14:26:39Z")

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Ronald has magical powers in regards to smiles and burgers. He can’t defend himself from a velociraptor, which is basically what Big Bird is.  
And snuffleumpagus would stomp Grimace like a horse kicking a rodeo clown in a barrel.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/11 "2013-10-06T14:39:28Z")

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You’ve got to take Snuffleupagus out of the equation. Snuffleupagus is a depressive personality so playing some Fiona Apple should get him curled in a nice tight little ball while weeping inconsolably.

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**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/12 "2013-10-06T16:43:55Z")

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> [@ac05](#):
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> Mr. Snuffleupagus was always intended to be imaginary when Jim Henson created him

Nitpick: The adults on Sesame Street **assumed** Snuffy was imaginary because something or other always prevented them from seeing him in person. But Big Bird (and a few kids/celebrities) could always see him. (And everyone could see him after Season 17.)

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**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/13 "2013-10-06T17:00:25Z")

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> [@swampspruce](#):
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> You don’t mess with the Mastadon (or wooly mammoth as the case may be)…

Right on. I’m not sure exactly what Snuffy is, but he’s big ol’ critter and if he gets stompy, things get bad everybody near him.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/14 "2013-10-06T17:24:23Z")

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> [@Flywheel](#):
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> Nitpick: The adults on Sesame Street **assumed** Snuffy was imaginary because something or other always prevented them from seeing him in person. But Big Bird (and a few kids/celebrities) could always see him. (And everyone could see him after Season 17.)

More than a nitpick - it’s material to the question at hand. He was always real, just not believed in.

My money’s on Big Bird and Snuffleupagus. Where do you think “Snuff” got his name, anyway?

Alright, Ronald might escape - he is known [to be deceitful and employ disguises](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP6WSOS0rUc). But he could never defeat BB and Snuff.

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**Author:** ![ac05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecb155/32.png) [@ac05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ac05)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/15 "2013-10-06T20:53:15Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> More than a nitpick - it’s material to the question at hand. He was always real, just not believed in.
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> My money’s on Big Bird and Snuffleupagus. Where do you think “Snuff” got his name, anyway?
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> Alright, Ronald might escape - he is known [to be deceitful and employ disguises](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP6WSOS0rUc). But he could never defeat BB and Snuff.

Snuff was retconned as being real, but was never intended to be real. But [Jim Henson and the Sesame Street producers always intended for him to be imaginary](http://www.henson.com/jimsredbook/2012/10/11/109-121984/). He’s meant to be imaginary.

And Big Bird has the mentality of a child. How’s that gonna help him against Ronald?

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**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/16 "2013-10-07T00:24:49Z")

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Grimace has evil at his core (his full name is The Evil Grimace after all), Ronald has magic powers and he also is always in control over every situation and always wins. I have no doubt that if it became necessary, Ronald would be capable of murder. Grimace would do whatever Ronald told him to. I don’t believe Snuffleupagus and Big Bird have it in them to kill. Ronald would scheme and plan his attack with cunning on a level that BB and Snuff are not mentally capable of. I think a lot of people may be voting with their heart on this one. Of course we’d all rather see Sesame Street kick McDonald’s ass, but in real life the good guys don’t always win.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/17 "2013-10-07T02:37:32Z")

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> [@ac05](#):
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> And Big Bird has the mentality of a child. How’s that gonna help him against Ronald?

Little kids don’t know when to stop and they don’t know their own limits. BB goes into a rage and shreds Ronald without even realizing the clown can’t come back from the dead.

And while Grimace v the Mammoth may be the slowest fight ever, I have to give it to the wooly stoner over the mutant stoner.

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**Author:** ![ac05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecb155/32.png) [@ac05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ac05)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/18 "2013-10-07T08:16:27Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> Little kids don’t know when to stop and they don’t know their own limits. BB goes into a rage and shreds Ronald without even realizing the clown can’t come back from the dead.

Ronald thinks quickly: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZm1n3Jomaw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZm1n3Jomaw)

But Big Bird?: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFxUVVhYyA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFxUVVhYyA)

Now tell me again how you expect him to beat Ronald.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/19 "2013-10-07T12:05:48Z")

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> [@ac05](#):
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> Ronald thinks quickly: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZm1n3Jomaw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZm1n3Jomaw)
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> But Big Bird?: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFxUVVhYyA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFxUVVhYyA)
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> Now tell me again how you expect him to beat Ronald.

Don’t confuse slow to act with the inability to break something.

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**Author:** ![ac05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecb155/32.png) [@ac05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ac05)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ronald-mcdonald-vs-big-bird-and-grimace-vs-mr-snuffleupagus/670393/20 "2013-10-07T12:54:05Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> Don’t confuse slow to act with the inability to break something.

I’m not. It’s just, it’s not all about brawn. It’s about brains too.
