# Roofies and victim-blaming: thanks small-town cops!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 18, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075 "2013-04-18T22:28:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/41 "2013-04-19T18:33:13Z")

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> [@colander](#):
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> god forbid the police would have to do any detective work
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> what do you think they are? batmans?

“Batmen”

[cite](https://twitter.com/FakeAPStylebook/status/37594509797756929).

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**Author:** ![drew870mitchell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drew870mitchell/32/3946_2.png) [@drew870mitchell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drew870mitchell)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/42 "2013-04-19T18:41:42Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> I am utterly appalled at the victim blaming in this thread. It’s disgusting. I just… I don’t know what else to say. I am ashamed of this board.

Apparently there are plenty of just-worlders on this board who can’t believe that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I was surprised myself.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/43 "2013-04-19T19:12:12Z")

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> [@blindboyard](#):
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> Was a blood test done? Someone just suddenly passing out could be the sign of any number of serious medical conditions, so one should have been done..

The post said the person in question woke up in a hospital, so yes, I imagine at least one blood test was done. (Hospitals generally run blood tests as a matter of course.)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/44 "2013-04-19T20:52:35Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> I am utterly appalled at the victim blaming in this thread. It’s disgusting. I just… I don’t know what else to say. I am ashamed of this board.

The Board is not too fond of you either. He told me so.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/45 "2013-04-19T21:03:05Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> The Board is not too fond of you either. He told me so.

Is this a joke? I can’t tell since it isn’t funny, but it doesn’t make sense either. Hm.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/46 "2013-04-19T21:17:55Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Is this a joke? I can’t tell since it isn’t funny, but it doesn’t make sense either. Hm.

I’m sorry I thought you were BigT.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/47 "2013-04-19T21:21:45Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> It’s my understanding that actually getting “roofied” is such a rare occurance as to almost be an urban legend.

It actually happens fairly commonly at strip clubs.

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**Author:** ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/48 "2013-04-19T21:43:42Z")

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Ok - I don’t know the guy, but it appears either his own wife doesn’t believe him - or thinks he deserves it.

Is he sure he isn’t on a benzodiazepine? Being on one and mixing it with alcohol can effect many people in a negative way. They are prescribed for sleeping and anxiety - and I bet most people that are taking one - dont even know they are taking a benzodiazepine.

Did he report the truck break-in and wallet missing - or just the attempted mickeying? Were credit cards stolen?

Do you actually believe him?

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/49 "2013-04-19T23:51:28Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I’m sorry I thought you were BigT.

See, again. It has the _structure_ of a joke, but it makes no sense and isn’t funny. Maybe you should take some lessons on the whole “humor” thing.

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**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/50 "2013-04-20T00:36:56Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> It’s my understanding that actually getting “roofied” is such a rare occurance as to almost be an urban legend.
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> What’s more likely? Someone in a bar singled your coworker out, slipped him a micky unnoticed, waited for him to pass out in the parking lot (and not the middle of the bar) and then robbed him? Or that he drank way too much, maybe did some drugs like cocaine or meth that also show up in a BZO test, passed out in the parking lot and someone then robbed him?

Just to correct a misconception here, there aren’t many drugs that will give you a positive benzodiazepine urine screen except benzodiazepines. And none of them are drugs of abuse. So either he was taking benzos for fun, or someone dosed him with them.

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**Author:** ![wheresmymind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@wheresmymind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheresmymind)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/51 "2013-04-20T00:48:48Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Female orgasms are also a myth. Pretty sure they don’t exist. I’ve never seen one anyway, and what would be the point?

Actually, I think female orgasms are a fair analogy here. They definitely happen, but not as often as most guys think (“Oh yeah, every girl I’ve slept with has had an orgasm. Every single time! It’s amazing, really.”).

Of course some people get roofied. But I think the vast majority of suspected drink spikings are simply someone drinking more than they thought faster than they anticipated. The cited Australian study seems to support that.

As to this particular case, I am somewhat perplexed. What exactly is it about this bar that made the cops suggest he was “asking for it?” Does your small town have a bar known for roofies?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/52 "2013-04-20T01:21:34Z")

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Previous thread on the topic

> **[Victims claims of being "drugged" with roofies vs simply drinking to excess](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=536517)**
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> I was reading about roofies after reading this article and came across the quote below. How common in real life is the deliberate use of roofiesand similar drugs to molest women vs simply taking advantage of women who are drunk to near...

> [@Locrian](#):
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> In Los Angeles, we get about 100 roofie victims on any given day. Picked up two of my female friends when they were discharged just this past year, so no urban legend.

Whose “we”? Alpha Gamma Delta sorority?

Did they test positive for GHB or some other drug? Or is it possible they drank way too much?

> [@DigitalC](#):
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> It actually happens fairly commonly at strip clubs.

Do you have some cites for this?

I used to go to a lot of bars, nightclubs, strip clubs and fraternity parties in my youth…and adulthood. I can’t confirm if I’ve ever seen anyone roofied. I have seen a lot of 120lb girls who didn’t eat anything all day, making bold statements like “how they can drink guys under the table” or “are Irish and don’t get drunk” only have “one” drink and next thing you know are so sloppy drunk they have no idea where they are.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/53 "2013-04-20T04:13:14Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> See, again. It has the _structure_ of a joke, but it makes no sense and isn’t funny. Maybe you should take some lessons on the whole “humor” thing.

Damn you really suck at that insult thing. You also suck at your clucking schoolmarm schtick. You should take outrage lessons from BigT.

What I see here isn’t so much blaming the victim as much as it is some critical thinking. The OP is not the victim. He was not there. He got the story second hand. We get the story third hand. It is reasonable to assume the whole story has not been heard or some of it has been lost in translation. That’s it. If you want to be ashamed of the board you should save it for something more worthy like the Sandusky thread or one of the Trayvon abominations. Otherwise you just look silly.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roofies-and-victim-blaming-thanks-small-town-cops/656075/54 "2013-04-20T13:56:31Z")

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Where the hell is Vinyl Turnip when we need him? He’d be able to come up with something pithy here. Like…

Cops: Well of course you’re just asking for it if you go to \*that \*bar, everyone \*knows \*that’s the bar where you go to get roofied!

Except funnier and probably harder to understand.

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