# "ROOSTORILLA"---new darwinian religion **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 8, 2001, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454 "2001-09-08T23:51:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/21 "2001-09-10T23:48:38Z")
\*\*jesse morrison wrote: “ROOSTORILLA” 1. Is it theoretically possible to cross genus/species breed a Rooster (genus/species–Gallus Domesticus) with a Gorilla (genus/species—Gorilla Gorilla gorilla gorilla) using the technology of Genetic Engineering?\*\* One question; why? Why are you attempting this? Assuming you succeed with this cross-breeding program, what hypothesis will you prove or disprove? What new information will you gain? What’s the point? Unless there’s a point, this is sounding more and more like a plot to a bad, grade B sci-fi movie found on the Late, Late, Late Show on some UHF station. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/22 "2001-09-10T23:55:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dave Stewart \* > \*\*Does a “human-bacteria” really have to be a big floating 1950s sci-fi blob with a human brain, or a spider-goat an eight-legged thing with horns and a penchant for eating everything? \*\* It most certainly does! If it doesn’t, what’s the point? ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Stewart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dave\_Stewart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Stewart)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/23 "2001-09-11T02:49:27Z")
Hmm. Well, “transgenic bacteria” certainly sounds less exciting than a “human-bacteria”. ---
**Author:** ![handandahalf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@handandahalf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handandahalf)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/24 "2001-09-11T05:14:27Z")
There aren’t actually any “strands of silk in the milk.” What’s happening is that the goats are producing the silk proteins in their milk, which are then extracted and made usable. The milk contains nothing that you’d recognize as “silk.” I’m sure you knew this already, but some other people can be a bit slow to catch on… ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/25 "2001-09-11T05:16:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\*I suppose it all boils down to your defeinition of the qword ‘hybrid’ - not all types of hybrid arise from sexual reproduction between the two species involved; there is such a thing as a ‘Graft Hybrid’ (Chimaera) - Laburnocytisus is the classic example of a chimaera. > > maybe qwe just need a new quailification, i.e. ‘genetically engineered hybrid’ \*\* Actually, I’d vote for the sheepgoat as the classic chimera, produced by fusion of embryos. (Why do I get the feeling that the FAQ urgently needs to be expanded? This isn’t the first time chimeras vs. hybrids has come up.) -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/26 "2001-09-11T05:18:20Z")
Incidentally, I forgot to mention the early Cold War project of the 1950’s to create a “robot monster” cyborg, in which a robot head (fashioned from a diving helmet and a set of TV antennae) was grafted onto the neck of a gorilla. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![jesse\_morrison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@jesse\_morrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesse_morrison)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/27 "2001-09-11T07:36:10Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Freyr \* \*\*\*\*jesse morrison wrote: “ROOSTORILLA” 1. Is it theoretically possible to cross genus/species breed a Rooster (genus/species–Gallus Domesticus) with a Gorilla (genus/species—Gorilla Gorilla gorilla gorilla) using the technology of Genetic Engineering?\*\* One question; why? Why are you attempting this? Assuming you succeed with this cross-breeding program, what hypothesis will you prove or disprove? What new information will you gain? What’s the point? Hi Feyr, ROOSTORILLA is just one example of a transgenic hybrid. Perhaps one of our Genicist Posters can calculate the number of possibilities (from bacteria thru the primates) and give the classification name for these possibilities. What’s the point? Have you read Bill Joy’s expose on robots and nanotechnology in wired magazine? Projection of the Future: 1. If you or your mate is away on a business trip, which would you prefer to leave, or be left with, a seductive transgenic hybrid or a seductive robot? 2. If projections for robots succeed (see “human in the loop”) in “developing” emotions, then how would it make you feel if you did not know for sure as to whether you were debating with a human or a robot on “GREAT DEBATES”? jesse (jealous male robot) ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/28 "2001-09-11T08:08:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ben \* > \*\* > Incidentally, I forgot to mention the early Cold War project of the 1950’s to create a “robot monster” cyborg, in which a robot head (fashioned from a diving helmet and a set of TV antennae) was grafted onto the neck of a gorilla. > > -Ben \*\* did it work? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/29 "2001-09-11T08:10:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jesse morrison \* > **1. If you or your mate is away on a business trip, > which would you prefer to leave, or be left with, > a seductive transgenic hybrid or a seductive robot?** Um, neither. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454/30 "2001-09-11T08:12:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ben \* > \*\*Actually, I’d vote for the sheepgoat as the classic chimera, produced by fusion of embryos. > > (Why do I get the feeling that the FAQ urgently needs to be expanded? This isn’t the first time chimeras vs. hybrids has come up.) > > -Ben \*\* Maybe, but I think as far as this thread goes, the inclusion (rightful or otherwise) of the term ‘hybrid’ is one of semantics rather than biology. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roostorilla-new-darwinian-religion/80454.md?page=1)