# Rose Marie RIP

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 29, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491 "2017-12-29T02:54:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/21 "2017-12-29T19:01:31Z")

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I know Rose from the Dick Van Dyke show.

She was very good.

RIP

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/22 "2017-12-29T21:14:06Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> I saw the documentary _Wait for Your Laugh_, mentioned by Prof. Pepperwinkle in post #4, at the Angelica Pop-Up Movie Theater in Washington D.C. on December 2nd. After the show, they did an interview by telephone with her. So less than four weeks before her death she was still doing interviews and just a few hours before her death she was tweeting.

They did a showing of the documentary about a month ago just down the street in Encino, CA. She attended in person, as her home was about 3 miles away.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/23 "2017-12-29T21:15:08Z")

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She was there the day I got thrown out of the UN.

RIP.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/24 "2017-12-29T21:23:14Z")

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She was in “International House” (1933) with W.C. Fields! The plot involves television and helicopters!

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/25 "2017-12-29T21:26:03Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> This leaves Carl Reiner (95), and Dick van Dyke (92) as the remaining adult stars of the Dick van Dyke Show.

Although you did qualify it with “adult,” Larry Matthews, who played Ritchie, is still alive at 62.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/26 "2017-12-29T21:31:16Z")

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Think about this: born in 1923, doing Vaudeville in 1926, a radio _star_ in 1928. Records, movies, TV.

Still doing Twitter in 2017, almost to 2018.

Nobody can top that.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/27 "2017-12-30T01:28:44Z")

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Given how old she looked, I’m surprised she made it past the 60’s, 70’s. Good for her.

Besides DVD, I’ll always remember her guest appearances on the Monkees.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/28 "2017-12-30T04:15:06Z")

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And “Hollywood Squares.”

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/29 "2017-12-30T08:50:15Z")

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RIP, Rose Marie. ☹

I remember her appearance in that episode of _The Monkees_ too. Does anyone know the story behind the little bow in her hair? I read once that she said it had a meaning, but she didn’t want to say what it was.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/30 "2017-12-30T08:56:19Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Now we’ve lost all 3 ladies in less than a year.

> [@terentii](#):
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> Sally, Laura, and Millie?

Millie (Ann Morgan Guilbert) died a year and a half ago, [June 14, 2016](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0346893/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t7).

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/31 "2017-12-30T10:35:24Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> RIP, Rose Marie. ☹
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> I remember her appearance in that episode of _The Monkees_ too. Does anyone know the story behind the little bow in her hair? I read once that she said it had a meaning, but she didn’t want to say what it was.

I read that the bow in her hair was a tribute to her late husband.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/32 "2017-12-30T11:57:14Z")

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> [@williamweigand](#):
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> I read that the bow in her hair was a tribute to her late husband.

I had heard this went back to her days as a child star, but all the references I find online say [she wouldn’t reveal the meaning of the bow because it was something very personal.](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/rose-maries-black-bow-now-in-the-smithsonian-1-180948846/) I don’t know if she ever wore it before the Dick Van Dyke show but that started in 1961 and her husband didn’t pass away until 1964. It could still be a tribute to him though.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/33 "2017-12-30T17:48:31Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> And “Hollywood Squares.”

Where she once said her full name was “Rose Marie Toblock.”

One of the old time greats.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/34 "2017-12-30T18:58:43Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Millie (Ann Morgan Guilbert) died a year and a half ago, [June 14, 2016](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0346893/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t7).

Jerry Paris, aka “Jerry Helper,” her husband on _ **DvD** _, died 31 March 1986. Quite a career, but I remember him best as one of Robert Stack’s men on _ **The Untouchables** _.

> **[Jerry Paris | Director, Actor, Producer](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0661577/)**
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> Known for: The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Caine Mutiny, Marty

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/35 "2017-12-30T19:21:55Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> RIP, Rose Marie. ☹
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> I remember her appearance in that episode of _The Monkees_ too.

AppearanceS. She was in at least two. Monkee Mother and The Monkees In A Ghost Town.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/36 "2017-12-30T19:35:36Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I had heard this went back to her days as a child star, but all the references I find online say [she wouldn’t reveal the meaning of the bow because it was something very personal.](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/rose-maries-black-bow-now-in-the-smithsonian-1-180948846/) I don’t know if she ever wore it before the Dick Van Dyke show but that started in 1961 and her husband didn’t pass away until 1964. It could still be a tribute to him though.

Yeah she confirmed in the documentary that it was a tribute to her husband.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/37 "2017-12-30T22:41:31Z")

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Boy, she could really belt out a song as a little girl! Her only rival in this department was the great [Mitzi Green](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0338191/?ref_=tt_rv_t4), another New Yorker, who died way too young at age 49.

So long, Sally, I’m sure you and Buddy are teamed up again and have the helmèd cherubim and sworded seraphim rolling in the aisles in Heaven.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/38 "2017-12-31T00:53:14Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> AppearanceS. She was in at least two. Monkee Mother and The Monkees In A Ghost Town.

The Ghost Town one is what I remember. I’m sure I saw Monkee Mother, but I don’t remember it. Will have to look it up.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/39 "2017-12-31T00:56:57Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’m sure I saw Monkee Mother, but I don’t remember it. Will have to look it up.

See link to the episode in post #19. 😉

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rose-marie-rip/805491/40 "2017-12-31T00:58:41Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> See link to the episode in post #19. 😉

Thanks. I do remember that now.

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