# Roseanne Part Two? No Thank You **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 24, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120 "2018-03-24T18:03:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/221 "2018-05-29T20:53:02Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Yep, just saw the news alert (from the BBC, of all places). Holy crap, what a racist. > > Maybe they could have just written her off the show instead (away at rehab, or some such). The Bar Roseanne Show? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/222 "2018-05-29T21:15:47Z")
Where are conservative viewers going to go now for their yuks? _The Ranch_, on Netflix, is very good, but one of the main characters was metoo’d off the show (I read he was written off the show, but they will be back). And that other show with a conservative bent, (_Last Man Standing_) with Tim Allen, was cancelled last year. Are there any others still being broadcast? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/223 "2018-05-29T21:18:44Z")
The fact is that Rosanne is straight up crazy. Not wacky neighbor sitcom crazy, but for real crazy. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/224 "2018-05-29T21:19:27Z")
I thought Fox had picked up the steaming pile that is Last Man Standing? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/225 "2018-05-29T21:47:48Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Roseanne tweets that former Obama advisor Valerian Jarrett is what happens if the [Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/roseanne-barr-apologizes-tweet-comparing-obama-adviser-ape-n878171) > > We can kick this racist pig to the curb now. That’s highly offensive to pigs. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/226 "2018-05-29T22:36:21Z")
Roseanne Season Two? No Thank You, says ABC. For all the talk about doing the right thing this decision was driven by the fact that many of the cast would have quit anyway and advertisers would be like rats leaving a sinking ship. The moronic Barr was toast as soon as she made that tweet. The pathetic attempts by her to backpedal show that she quickly realized she’d gone about 100 miles too far but by then it was way too late. I await the response of the President of the United States of America to these events. I’m sure he’ll have something profound to say. My overall feeling? A deep sense of satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![PlumBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@PlumBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlumBob)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/227 "2018-05-29T22:45:02Z")
I really don’t know who Valerie Jarret is so I googled her. I think she looks a bit like Rosanne. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/228 "2018-05-29T22:50:45Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Roseanne Season Two? No Thank You, says ABC. For all the talk about doing the right thing this decision was driven by the fact that many of the cast would have quit anyway and advertisers would be like rats leaving a sinking ship. The moronic Barr was toast as soon as she made that tweet. The pathetic attempts by her to backpedal show that she quickly realized she’d gone about 100 miles too far but by then it was way too late. > > I await the response of the President of the United States of America to these events. I’m sure he’ll have something profound to say. > > My overall feeling? A deep sense of satisfaction. FOX news, that has the ear of Trump, already told him to drop her like a hot potato. > **[Fox News politics editor fears if Trump comments on Roseanne he'll be...](https://www.mediamatters.org/abc/fox-news-politics-editor-fears-if-trump-comments-roseanne-hell-be-associating-himself)** > [@](#): > > Several hours after conspiracy theorist and pro-Trump comedian Roseanne Barr tweeted a racist attack on former Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, ABC announced its decision to cancel Barr’s TV show, Roseanne. The show has received an outpouring of support from conservatives since its March premiere, and, despite Barr’s documented history of extremism, President Donald Trump has reportedly praised her. > > During an appearance on Fox’s The Daily Briefing, Fox politics editor Chris Stirewalt argued that Trump should resist defending Roseanne after this latest scandal. Stirewalt noted that Roseanne “occupies the murkiest part of the fever swamps of online conspiracy theorists” and “trafficked in the same sort of kookism and grossness” as people like Michael Flynn Jr., the son of Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser. Both Flynn Jr. and Roseanne helped spread the pizzagate conspiracy theory. Will Trump be himself or more like a puppet? We’ll see… ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/229 "2018-05-29T23:20:43Z")
Finally, Roseanne made me laugh. Cue Nelson Muntz, “Ha ha!” ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/230 "2018-05-29T23:27:16Z")
> [@Dewey Finn](#): > > There was a joke a couple of episodes ago that’s receiving some attention, such as here and here. > > As summarized by The New Yorker, “In the third episode of “Roseanne,” on ABC, Roseanne Conner and her husband, Dan, wake up on their iconic sofa, in Lanford, Illinois. ‘It’s eleven o’clock,’ Roseanne says. ‘We slept from “Wheel” to “Kimmel.”’ Dan replies, ‘We missed all the shows about black and Asian families.’ Roseanne squawks, ‘They’re just like us!’ Then, sardonically, ‘There, now you’re all caught up.’” > > The reference to shows about black and Asian familes is to black-ish and Fresh Off the Boat, respectively. So is this dismissive, as suggested by some who commented on it? This is clearly a dismissive joke. But it’s at least approximately an actual joke, with some potential for humor. In the alternate universe in which there is a conservative equivalent to The Daily Show, John Oliver, etc, but one which is actually funny, this is the kind of joke that might be told. That said, there’s some complexity there. The fact that we know Roseanne has conservative “anti-PC” tendencies informs how we hear the joke. When she tells it, the message seems to be “there’s no point in having all of these shows with non-white characters, because all they do is repeatedly hit us over the head with this PC message that ‘they’re just like us’”. With two implications: (1) These other shows only exist because of PC, and wouldn’t have made it on the air if not for the SJWs in Hollywood (2) Particularly if it’s a show featuring Muslims, who are, of course, evil and un-American, then the message of “they’re just like us” is a lie. In fact, I’d bet that different bigots would accept “they’re just like us” as a true (if PC) message about different sets of groups, but not all. That said, I can also imagine an edgy progressive telling the same joke (particularly a few years ago), where they’re not making fun of the idea of having a show about minorities, but rather, making fun of a dominant culture that is so insecure that the only message a show about minorities is _allowed_ to have is the very safe and reassuring pablum of “they’re just like us”… that is, the joke teller would prefer more shows like _The Big Sick_ (yeah, I know it’s a movie, but still, it clearly does not downplay the cultural divides between the cultures that are clashing) and fewer like _The Cosby Show_. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/231 "2018-05-29T23:34:26Z")
So I was going to take the show of my Hulu watchlist, but it’s already disappeared from Hulu. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/232 "2018-05-29T23:40:40Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > A repeat of _Roseanne_ is schedule this evening on ABC. Wonder if they take it off the schedule. What time was that scheduled for? Because my cable box program guide shows two episodes of the Middle at 8 and 8:30. So most likely, they wiped it from the schedule. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/233 "2018-05-29T23:59:06Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > I don’t understand why they couldn’t just fire Roseanne, kill off the character, and rename the show to something like The Connor Family. Replace her with Rosie O’Donnell. You can still call it _Roseanne_ and make a bunch of meta-Becky jokes! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/234 "2018-05-30T00:02:06Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > So I was going to take the show of my Hulu watchlist, but it’s already disappeared from Hulu. It is being reported that reruns of the original _Rosanne_ have been pulled from CMT and other stations: > **['Roseanne' reruns yanked from CMT, TV Land, Paramount Network](https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/roseanne-reruns-yanked-from-cmt-tv-land-paramount-network)** > > Viacom is reportedly pulling original "Roseanne" reruns from its channels after the show's namesake star posted a racist tweet about an Obama-era administration official. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/235 "2018-05-30T00:07:41Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > What time was that scheduled for? Because my cable box program guide shows two episodes of the Middle at 8 and 8:30. So most likely, they wiped it from the schedule. 8 pm ET. (now) And I am getting a repeat from the Middle) My cable guide updates at 4 am everyday, so it didn’t have time to update after ABC’s announcement. Its telling me that I should be watching the Roseanne repeat where David unexpectedly shows up. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/236 "2018-05-30T00:16:25Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > It is being reported that reruns of the original _Rosanne_ have been pulled from CMT and other stations:… Way to go Roseanne; you managed to screw everyone you worked with over the years out of their royalties from seasons 1-9 too. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/237 "2018-05-30T00:33:00Z")
You can say she’s been… Barr’d. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/238 "2018-05-30T00:49:31Z")
I am happy ABC responded as they did, but I lament the passing of this show. No, it wasn’t All in the Family, but it was sorta doing some of the same things. It was a show that conservatives loved that was written by liberals and slowing pushing a more tolerant, liberal message. Hell, the fact that it bothered liberals was a feature, in my eyes, since that just gave it more conservative cred. Don’t get me wrong: I didn’t like the show myself, but I liked that conservatives were defending a show that had a “Muslims are just like us” message. Or that gender nonconformity and homosexuality are okay. Or that it’s okay to be pro-choice, as Roseanne(!) was. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/239 "2018-05-30T01:33:45Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Way to go Roseanne; you managed to screw everyone you worked with over the years out of their royalties from seasons 1-9 too. This is what really pisses me off. Other than John Goodman, I don’t think anyone in the remake had much of an acting career going. She fucked over all those people just because she is a big mouthed moron. And I’m 100% sure she will be playing the victim soon about it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/240 "2018-05-30T01:35:09Z")
Roseanne’s agent has dumped her, and Viacom, which owns the syndication rights, has pulled the original show from syndication. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120.md?page=13)